(a) Two point charges totaling 7.00 µC exert a repulsive force of 0.200 N on one another when separated by 0.215 m. What is the charge on each? smallest charge Incorrect: Your answer is incorrect. µC largest charge Incorrect: Your answer is incorrect. µC (b) What is the charge on each if the force is attractive? smallest charge µC largest charge µC
suppose the charges are q1 and q2 the question tells you the value of q1 + q2 also, knowing the force between them, you can use coulombs law to calculate q1*q2 you then have 2 equations for your 2 unknowns, q1 and q2
can you show me the formula revised to figure it out
do you know coulombs law for the force between two charges ?
i know f=kq1g2/r^2
then its a quadratic right?
yes, you do end up with a quadratic for the values of the charge
q1^2-q1(-7E-6)+(21.5E-11)=0 ?
you're close but it's not quite what I have
\[q1+q2=7*10^{-6}\]
\[q1*q2=1.027*10^{-12}\]
im getting lost in the algebra substitute q1 or 2 for a and solve right?
try working through it without numbers first, so say q1 + q2 = m and q1*q2 = n
so q2 = n/q1
then substitute for q2 in the first expression to get q1 +n/q1 =m
multiply through by q1 to get q1^2 +n = m*q1
rearrange to get q1^2 - m*q1 + n = 0
then the solutions are \[\frac{ 1 }{ 2}[m \pm \sqrt{m^2-4*n}]\]
plug in the values, \[m=7*10^{-6}\] and \[n=1.027*10^{-12}\]
let me know what you get for the two solutions
6.82 and1.027
well i have 6.85 for one value
do your two values add up to 7 like they're supposed to ?
i was * to make 7
.18
ok, if you try 6.82 and o.18, what do they give for the product q1*q2 ?
when i enter my answers it tells me 6.82 is correct for the large charge but 0.18 is wrong for the smaller
the correct answers are 6.85 and 0.15, you've probably made a slight error with the numbers somewhere
microcoulombs, of course
yes the the -6
q1*q2 has to come to 1.027 *10-12 and q1+q2 has to come to 7*10-6
it accepted .15 wth strange
and the 6.82
i thought they should have equaled 7 but
the main thing is to understand the method, you might want to check your numerical calculation to see if there was a slight error somewhere
yes they do have to equal 7, the larger charge is 6.85
thanks for spending so much time with me
no problem
so now i do the same but with opp charge right
what about the attractive force ?
use the numbers i just got?
the question states that the force is repulsive, you have the two values of the charges, there is no more to be done, you've solved the problem
there is a part b asking the charge on force is attractive
but thats cool i dont wanna bug ya i appreciate what youve helped me with
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