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rvc (rvc):

can anyone explain me transcription

rvc (rvc):

@deepika.comet @shereenkhan @Abhisar

OpenStudy (praetorian.10):

lets start with the basic web definition: Transcription is the process by which the information in a strand of DNA is copied into a new molecule of messenger RNA (mRNA). DNA safely and stably stores genetic material in the nuclei of cells as a reference, or template.

OpenStudy (praetorian.10):

Now lets discuss what parts dont make any sense to you?

rvc (rvc):

just give me a sec @PRAETORIAN.10

OpenStudy (praetorian.10):

take all the time you need gurl :D

rvc (rvc):

thats fine

OpenStudy (praetorian.10):

RVC = Regimental Victorian Civilians

OpenStudy (abhisar):

It is the process by which DNA is copied into mRNA with the help of enzymes. Have a look on this link for detailed explanation of the process ` http://biology.about.com/od/cellularprocesses/ss/Dna-Transcription.htm `

rvc (rvc):

i did not understand the web def

OpenStudy (abb0t):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsofH466lqk

OpenStudy (praetorian.10):

thats because Ab the Awful doesnt know what he is talking about ;)

rvc (rvc):

can u explain me the process step wise @PRAETORIAN.10

OpenStudy (praetorian.10):

Binds to the DNA strand at a specific sequence of the gene called a promoter Unwinds and unlinks the two strands of DNA Uses one of the DNA strands as a guide or template Matches new nucleotides with their complements on the DNA strand (G with C, A with U -- remember that RNA has uracil (U) instead of thymine (T)) Binds these new RNA nucleotides together to form a complementary copy of the DNA strand (mRNA) Stops when it encounters a termination sequence of bases (stop codon)

OpenStudy (praetorian.10):

thats copied and pasted but probs makes more sense then what i would write because according to Ab my terminology is too advanced ;)

OpenStudy (praetorian.10):

does that process make more sense now?

rvc (rvc):

just wait let me read it

OpenStudy (praetorian.10):

righto bucko

OpenStudy (abb0t):

I'm more of a visual person, so that video might help.

OpenStudy (praetorian.10):

agreed, everyone has a unique way of learning, trial and error for some. try and fail and fail and fail for people like Ab. Try one time and get it right every time for me. etc etc

OpenStudy (praetorian.10):

If you know what kind of learner you are then it'll be easier for you to, well....learn.

OpenStudy (praetorian.10):

~ nom nom nom i need to eat something hungry hungry Prae ~

OpenStudy (praetorian.10):

i'll be back unless i find food in which case i wont be back because doctors are fatties and i love cookies

OpenStudy (praetorian.10):

in the event of such, i have tasked squire Ab to assist you in every need

rvc (rvc):

u may leave thx :)

OpenStudy (abhisar):

OpenStudy (abhisar):

Read Pg 107 and ask me if u get stuck anywhere :)

rvc (rvc):

where is the promoter present? @Abhisar

OpenStudy (abhisar):

On the DNA

OpenStudy (abhisar):

Promoter in just the name of a DNA region which promotes transcription

rvc (rvc):

at 5 end right?

OpenStudy (abhisar):

yes 5' end of the coding strand

rvc (rvc):

what is monocistronic?

OpenStudy (abhisar):

Monocistronic means such a RNA which can code for only one polypeptide per RNA molecule.

OpenStudy (abhisar):

Polycistronic means such a RNA which can code for more tha one polypeptide per RNA molecule.

OpenStudy (abhisar):

Bacteria and other prokaryotes have polycistronic type of RNA while Eukaryotes have monocistronic type of RNA

rvc (rvc):

can u make it little simple

OpenStudy (abhisar):

:O

OpenStudy (abhisar):

ok what part u r not able to get in the above lines ?

rvc (rvc):

which can code 4 more than 1 polypeptide chain

OpenStudy (abhisar):

Monocistronic RNA --------> A single RNA can code for only one polypeptide, found in eukaryotes Polycistronic RNA ------> A single RNA can code for more than one polypeptide, found in prokaryotes

rvc (rvc):

means it will code 4 only one polypeptide the same RNA will not go for other polypeptide chain = monocistronic

rvc (rvc):

am i correct

OpenStudy (abhisar):

\(\huge\checkmark\)

rvc (rvc):

THANK U im glad im understanding

OpenStudy (abhisar):

you're most welcome :)

rvc (rvc):

in hnRNA :splicing process does not undergo?

OpenStudy (abhisar):

in hnRNA besides splicing an additional process called caping and tailing also takes place.

rvc (rvc):

yes but in splicing introns go right?

rvc (rvc):

so how do they say hnRNA have (introns as well as extrons) in bracket?

OpenStudy (abhisar):

In eukaryotes, primary transcript contains both introns and exons. Introns are useless and intervening sequences and make the primary transcript non functional. in order to make the transcript functional these introns are needed to be removed. This is achieved by the process of Splicing. In this process introns are removed and exons are jined in a definite order.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

small caveat, introns are not useless.

OpenStudy (abhisar):

hnRNA is a type of RNA [one from several other] which is precursor of mRNA. During its transcription an additional process called capping and slicing is required. So in their case splicing is followed by capping and tailing

OpenStudy (abb0t):

introns are definitely not "useless".

OpenStudy (anonymous):

another caveat, splicing can occur at the same time as capping

OpenStudy (abb0t):

Someone needs to go back to Bio 101.

OpenStudy (abhisar):

Introns are intervening sequences which do not appear in mature RNA

OpenStudy (abhisar):

I used the term useless just to simplify things.

OpenStudy (abhisar):

Afterall nothing in the human body is useless :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

cept your appendix

OpenStudy (abb0t):

rekt

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Everything is bit important yes that we know.

OpenStudy (abhisar):

@jedi_trooper if u'll dig a little deeper then u'll find that appendix has its use too.

OpenStudy (abb0t):

OOOOOOOOOH!!! U GON TAKE THAT, JEDI!?

OpenStudy (abb0t):

@jedi_trooper

OpenStudy (anonymous):

But we can totally live without it just like living with one kidney

OpenStudy (abhisar):

Just because something's function is unknown or not well understood u can not say that it's useless. Check out some good physiology books and u'll find that they act as a rservoir for prebiotics.

OpenStudy (abb0t):

OpenStudy (anonymous):

says the guy who calls introns useless

OpenStudy (anonymous):

lol

OpenStudy (abhisar):

I already clarified why i said it useless !

OpenStudy (abhisar):

I used the term useless just to simplify things. it has no role in mature RNA.

OpenStudy (abhisar):

also its function is very insignificant !

OpenStudy (abhisar):

@abb0t @jedi_trooper http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intron#Biological_functions_and_evolution

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Wikipedia is not that reliable... <->_<-> hmmm

OpenStudy (anonymous):

But oh wells some are reliable

OpenStudy (abhisar):

But that's correct. You can search it anywhere else too http://prntscr.com/4ivjqj

OpenStudy (anonymous):

lol you called its function insignificant and then linked a wikipedia article that describes very important functions that introns play a role in.

OpenStudy (abhisar):

Like ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

it contains sequences necessary for splicing. can generate non-coding RNA which in turn plays many regulatory roles.

OpenStudy (abb0t):

I don't see the word "useless" anywhere in that article.

OpenStudy (abhisar):

The term useless was with respect to splicing

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Introns are only relatively recently being studied in depth, so there is still much to learn about them.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Introns have a huge role in splicing though

OpenStudy (abhisar):

And yes i agree it's not a very scientific term ! It was just used to make things simple.

OpenStudy (abb0t):

OpenStudy (anonymous):

what you trying to prove? What's been said is been said.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i mean has* been said

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Well, for the sake of high school Biology, introns are deemed useless cause they're too lazy to go into depth about these concepts.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

But, we should hold ourselves to a higher standard!

OpenStudy (abb0t):

You're so right, @jedi_trooper thank you for correcting and providing us with proper information.

OpenStudy (abhisar):

This is not a competition @jedi_trooper ! The asker is an A level student and i was just making sure she get things

OpenStudy (abhisar):

btw thank you for ur kind words @jedi_trooper @abb0t ! :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

But are they going to really use it in their daily lives? If they're planning to have a career in this area then yeah it is..

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I know. I meant my comment to be a small footnote in your lecture, but you got sidetracked. lol

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Though awesome information learning that. lol haha :)

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