find the limit x approaches infinity, x-1/2x^2+3
i used the direct substitution and i got \[-\frac{ 1 }{ 3 }\] for the right side and \[\frac{ 1 }{ 3}\] for the left side. Is that right?
sorry, it is x approaches infinity.
oh
can you use l'Hopital's rule ?
divide the numerator and denominator by x \[\lim_{x\to\infty}\frac{x-1}{2x^2+3}\leadsto\frac\infty\infty\\ \lim_{x\to\infty}\frac{(x-1)/x}{(2x^2+3)/x}\]
@UnkleRhaukus it tends to zero
but we haven't explained to get there yet
you should tell him that the changes in denom are much greater than in nume then the whole of expression will approach zero..
yeah that's a different method , the powers of x in the denominator are greater than the powers of x in the numberator
\[\lim_{x\to\infty}\frac{x-1}{2x^2+3}\\=\lim_{x\to\infty}\frac{O(x)}{O(x^2)}\\=\lim_{x\to\infty}O(x^{-1})\]
yeah, actually and it would be zero as x goes to infinity..
I like l'Hopital's relue method best \[\lim_{x\to\infty}\frac{x-1}{2x^2+3}\leadsto\frac\infty\infty\\ \stackrel{\text{l'H}}=\lim_{x\to\infty}\frac{\frac{\mathrm d}{dx}(x-1)}{\frac{\mathrm d}{dx}(2x^2+3)}\\=\lim_{x\to\infty}\frac{1}{4x}\\=\]
*rule
it is a bad theory
bad? how so?
it kills your creativity.
didn't kill mine
it doesn't even work every time
lol L'hops is to limits what FTC is to riemann sums. good to use L'hops when you're allowed to
it is okay only when you are going to make sure of what you've got by direct calculations..
taylor series of top and bottom would be more creative (save degrees of a fraction logic)
well sincethe greates power of numerator is less than the greatest power of denominator i would say limit is zero ( without thinking ) hmmm idk if i have to think on this xD
that was already said 2-3 times in above replies :P
actually ...
the problem is that how @dzie could ever get some nonzero answers.
thank you all.
but does that mean this cannot be solved using direct substitution?
i need more explanation please on why we need to divide the numerator and the denominator by x or why we need to use L'hopital rule
direct substitution leads to infinity / infinity, which is an indeterminate form, so some technique must be applied to simplify the expression before the substitution is made
but why is it \[\frac{ \infty }{ \infty }\] this was what i did \[\frac{ \infty -1 }{ 2(\infty)^{2}+3}\]
\[\infty-1=\infty\\ 2\times\infty^2+3=\infty\]
okay. thanks
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