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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Integrals

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\int\limits x^3\sqrt{9-x^2} dx\]

myininaya (myininaya):

hint: x^3=x^2*x Use a substitution for the inside of that square root

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i don't get it...

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

i would go with U sub

myininaya (myininaya):

What I'm saying is u-sub the inside of that square root and you need to notice you can also use that u-sub again for that x^2 part of x^3 thing

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

eh can we use trig here!?

myininaya (myininaya):

trig isn't needed

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Um I think i am supposed to use trig, if necessary

myininaya (myininaya):

though i'm sure you could take that approach the most simplest thing to do i think is to just algebraic sub (that you will use twice)

myininaya (myininaya):

\[\int\limits_{}^{}x^2 \sqrt{9-x^2} x dx \] If it helps write it like this first

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

looks to me trig is a good one here? why not?

OpenStudy (kl0723):

make u=x^2 and use it, outside and inside of the squeare root by saying x^3 = x^2*x basically right?

myininaya (myininaya):

let u=9-x^2 du=-2x dx we said u=9-x^2 but that also means we can write x^2=9-u

myininaya (myininaya):

replace the x^2's with (9-u) replace x dx with -du/2

OpenStudy (kl0723):

great approach @myininaya :)

myininaya (myininaya):

but you can also trig it I'm sure

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

yeah think trig will complicate things. i just tried

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

long process...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yeah trig is a huge mess, i hate it

myininaya (myininaya):

and thanks @kl0723 I'm just used to ones that sorta look like this one

OpenStudy (anonymous):

what would be the answer so i can make sure i got this right

myininaya (myininaya):

@willet I can walk you through both ways... Have you tried doing it the first way I mentioned?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yeah, if I can avoid the trig ill glady do it that way

myininaya (myininaya):

so when you transformed the integral in terms of u what did you get as your integral

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[-9/2 \int\limits -u \sqrt{u}\]

myininaya (myininaya):

\[\int\limits_{}^{}x^3 \sqrt{9-x^2} dx =\int\limits_{}^{}x^2 \sqrt{9-x^2} x dx \] you would let u=9-x^2 so x^2=9-u so 2x dx=-du so x dx=-du/2 So everywhere I see x^2 I will replace it with (9-u) and wherever I see x dx i will replace it with -du/2 So we have this: \[\int\limits_{}^{}(9-u)\sqrt{9-(9-u)} \frac{-1}{2} du \]

myininaya (myininaya):

The inside of that square root simplifies to what you said which is u

myininaya (myininaya):

\[\frac{-1}{2} \int\limits_{}^{}(9-u) \sqrt{u} du\]

myininaya (myininaya):

Now write sqrt(u) as u^(1/2) and distribute over the (9-u) part

myininaya (myininaya):

\[\frac{-1}{2}\int\limits_{}^{}(9-u)u^\frac{1}{2}du \\ = \frac{-1}{2}\int\limits_{}^{}(9u^\frac{1}{2}-u^{1+\frac{1}{2}}) du \] All I did was exactly what I told you to do now the last thing couples you need to do is: 1) add 1 and 1/2 2) then integrate each term

myininaya (myininaya):

you can integrate each term using the antiderivate (integration) power rule

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok i got \[6u ^{3/2}- \frac{ 2 }{ 5 }u^{5/2}\]

myininaya (myininaya):

and that is without distributing that -1/2 multiple?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oops i forgot to do that, yes

myininaya (myininaya):

Then also don't forget your plus C and you need to finish up by replace u back in terms of x using your substitution u=9-x^2

OpenStudy (anonymous):

alright i think i got it thanks

myininaya (myininaya):

you can also integrate this by trig sub it isn't too scary did you least get the integral in terms of trig functions yet?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I think so, I got stuck with the trig

myininaya (myininaya):

what did you the integral as in terms of trig functions?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ill send a picture of it, one sec. Im not sure if i did it right

OpenStudy (anonymous):

sorry if you cant read my handwriting

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I've been doing homework all day, so my mind is pretty much drained lol

myininaya (myininaya):

6th line is where you went wrong if x=3sin(theta) then x^3=27sin^3(theta)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh wow

myininaya (myininaya):

integral should have been \[243 \int\limits_{}^{}\sin^3(\theta) \cos^2(\theta) d \theta \]

myininaya (myininaya):

for this problem you would take the sin^3(theta) and write it as sin^2(theta) * sin(theta) then rewrite sin^2(theta) as 1-cos^2(theta) then distribute over the cos^2(theta) part so you would \[243 \int\limits_{}^{} \sin^2(\theta) \cos^2(\theta) \sin(\theta) d \theta \\ = 243 \int\limits_{}^{}(1-\cos^2(\theta)) \cos^2(\theta) \sin(\theta) d \theta = \\ 243 \int\limits_{}^{}(\cos^2(\theta) -\cos^4(\theta)) \sin(\theta) d \theta \] then you would make another sub let v=cos(theta)

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

yeah you would do another Sub involving trig the end result will be the same though

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