If a function f(x) has a slope m, then its inverse function f^-1(x) has a slope 1/m. So how come the derivative of ln(x) is not e^-x ?
I'm pretty sure the slope of the inverse function \(f^{-1}(x)\) is \(-1/m\) and not \(1/m\)
Well if you have y=2x the inverse function is y=x/2 isn't it?
Gimme some time .. I am not really sure -.- Basically the way to find out is to note the fact that \(f(x)\) and \(f^{-1}(x)\) are symmetric about the line y = x.
Sure, that's why I'm saying this haha.
So like in the simple case we have: \[\LARGE f = 2x+3 \ \ \ \ f^{-1}=\frac{1}{2}x+\frac{3}{2} \\ \LARGE f' = 2 \ \ \ \ (f^{-1})' =\frac{1}{2}\] So obviously for lines \[\LARGE f' = \frac{1}{(f^{-1})'}\] that will hold we could just run the whole thing through with m and b where 2 and 3 were. But it doesn't work always it seems. Obviously the derivative of e^x is not the reciprocal of the derivative of lnx.
Also, this is just a hunch, but I think the relation regarding the slopes is valid only at the point at which the function and it's inverse intersect. (or if it's linear). For non-linear functions, it's only valid at the point of intersection. If they don't intersect, then it's never valid (atleast for the same x).
*Never* in the last line is a pretty strong word ... Don't take it literally :P
No you're wrong.
The inverse function is a reflection across the line y=x. They have inverse slopes of each other at every point.
correct me if i'm wrong but: "The inverse function is a reflection across the line y=x. They have inverse slopes of each other at every point \(\text{in a rotated axis aligned with the line y-x}\)"
I'll be back in an hour or two .. Hopefully I'll think up of something concrete till then. ttyl
Uhh, this is embarassing .. I would suggest anyone looking at my posts in this thread to IGNORE EVERYTHING..... (I have a strong inclination to delete all these pots, but i'll keep em for the sake of @Kainui so that it doesn't seem that he's been talking to himself) ^.^
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverse_functions_and_differentiation Nah I know the answer all along I was just playing. This should make it clear. ;P
I was going to say that the relation between the inverse functions' derivatives has something to do with them being onto. Clearly, \(f,g:\mathbb{R}\to\mathbb{R}\), \(f(x)=\ln x\) and \(g(x)=e^x\) are not onto.
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@Kainui Those are two somewhat unrelated statements. Here's how I see your question: if a bird has wings and can fly, who do dolphins swim?
Things don't map so easily.
\[\LARGE y(x)=e^x \ \ \ \ x(y)=lny \\ \LARGE y'(x) = e^x \ \ \ \ x'(y)=\frac{1}{y}\] so we know \[\LARGE y'(x)=\frac{1}{x'(y)}\] is clearly true since \[\LARGE e^x=\frac{1}{1/y}\] It's just a trick question.
What are you talking about people? @primeralph @SithsAndGiggles
In my defense, it was about 3 am when I posted that...
=P
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