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OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

ok here is problem that doesn't go into my mind hehe

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

the dot product definition \(\vec{a}.\vec{b}=||a|||b||cos\theta\) theta angle between vectors a and b some text books tend to explain this using work force problem which doesn't look to me intuitive! i doesn't seem to me they make any relation to cosine law

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

somehow cosine of angle between \(\large \vec{a}\) and \(\large \vec{b} \) is sneaking in \(\large \vec{a}\bullet \vec{b}\)

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

so basically they from work-force problem we can see that a is projected on b and so... and first of all how do i know that the force forms and angle with the direction of the object?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

do you know how to swim ?

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

say* first line

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

yeah! sort of

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

is it easy to swim against the flow of water or along the the flow water ?

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

easy to swim with the flow

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

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ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

water flow does some positive work when you're along its direction, yes ?

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

yes! that is logical

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

if you're going in reverse direction, then water flow does negative work, yes ?

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

yes!

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

if you're going PERPENDICULAR to the water flow, then water does 0 work, still yes ?

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

true

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

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ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

So the amount of work done by water flow depends on the angle between your swimming path and the flow path.

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Suppose water flow = \(\large \overrightarrow{W}\) your swimming direction = \(\large \overrightarrow{S}\)

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

hmmm sounds good

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

then the work done can be represented using the dot product formula : \[\large \text{work done by water in moving you} = \overrightarrow{W} \bullet \overrightarrow{S}\]

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

which equals \[\large \overrightarrow{W} \bullet \overrightarrow{S} = |\overrightarrow{W} | |\overrightarrow{S}| \cos \theta \] because for obvious reasons

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

i see... so we know it is cosine because of cosine law? right?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

the work done must become 0 when, \(\theta = 90\) and it must be positive and decrease as \(\theta \) increases from \(\large 0 \to 90\)

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

yes, there is a nice way for representing dot product in cartesian coordinates also : \(\large \langle a_1, a_2, a_3 \rangle \bullet \langle b_1, b_2, b_3\rangle = a_1b_1 + a_2b_2 + a_3b_3 \)

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

\[\overrightarrow{W} \bullet \overrightarrow{S} = |\overrightarrow{W} | |\overrightarrow{S}| \cos \theta = \langle a_1, a_2, a_3 \rangle \bullet \langle b_1, b_2, b_3\rangle = a_1b_1 + a_2b_2 + a_3b_3 \]

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

yeah i know of that! that one has no cosine involved at all which is a mystery hehehe

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

cosine is still hiding in those coordinates :)

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

and it must be positive and decrease as θ increases from 0→90 hold one what are saying here in this line? the work can be negative as well no? what about the angle can as well

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

yes

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

oh i see so it is simplified!

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

the work done by "water flow" in moving you can be positive/negative/0

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

depends on the angle, is that right!

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

when you're falliing down, gravity is doing positive work when you're jumping up, gravity is doing negative work

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

yes, cosine is negative in second and third quadrants

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

negative work is same as swimming against the water flow

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

the water flow is working against your movement

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

yes! i still don't get what you said about decreases part? can you elaborate are you saying that work decrease as the angle get bigger!

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

oh yeah i got it as angle goes to 90 the work decreases thank @ganeshie8

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