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hartnn (hartnn):

If x=cos θ-r sin θ,y=sin θ+r cos θ prove that dr/dx =x/r

hartnn (hartnn):

I have \( x^2 +y^2 =1+r^2 \)

hartnn (hartnn):

could find \(\dfrac{\partial r}{\partial x}\) and \(\dfrac{\partial r}{\partial y}\) but dr/dx ?

Miracrown (miracrown):

I think it will help to use implicit differentiation for this problem.

hartnn (hartnn):

then how will i get dy/dx ?

hartnn (hartnn):

2x +2y dy/dx = 2r dr/dx

Miracrown (miracrown):

I don't think we need to worry about dy We're just trying to find dr/dx, so we can treat y as a constant

Miracrown (miracrown):

If we do that, what would we get from the implicit differentiation?

hartnn (hartnn):

if we are treating y as constant , then we get \(\partial r/\partial x\) not dr/dx ...

hartnn (hartnn):

right ?

Miracrown (miracrown):

I think if we use implicit differentiation, we can use dr and dx

hartnn (hartnn):

show some initial steps ?

Miracrown (miracrown):

We just have to take the derivative of each term separately For the first term, what is the derivative of x^2?

hartnn (hartnn):

2x dx

Miracrown (miracrown):

Right! Then since we're treating y as a constant, the derivative of y^2 will be 0

Miracrown (miracrown):

Then what is the derivative of 1+r^2?

hartnn (hartnn):

"we're treating y as a constant" then we are partially differentiating!

hartnn (hartnn):

2x \(\partial x = 2r \partial r\)

Miracrown (miracrown):

Maybe, but I don't think it will matter here since y is in its own term Another way to think about it is instead of having dx and dr, using dx/dt and dr/dt Then you'll also have dy/dt, but if y is constant it will be 0

hartnn (hartnn):

not sure about the whole "y is constant" thing....

Miracrown (miracrown):

it almost seems like they just used bad notation I think they meant to use partial notation there, what they have with dr/dx makes no sense really... what did you get for dr/dx (partial)?

Miracrown (miracrown):

i was just reminding myself that x depends on r and theta... but what you have here seems off to me... isn't x^2 + y^2 = r^2 ?

Miracrown (miracrown):

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