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OpenStudy (anonymous):

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OpenStudy (anonymous):

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ick

OpenStudy (anonymous):

:(

OpenStudy (anonymous):

find the derivative, plug in the number, use the point slope formula

OpenStudy (anonymous):

wanna do it step by step, or can we cheat?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

there is an easier way I'm all for it lol

OpenStudy (anonymous):

cheat :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

first we find the derivative http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=64x%2F%28x^2%2B64%29

OpenStudy (anonymous):

:)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

then we evaluate at \(x=-4\) http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=-%2864+%28-64%2Bx^2%29%29%2F%2864%2Bx^2%29^2%2C+x%3D-4

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i love wolfram :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

then we use the formula after evaluating at x=4

OpenStudy (anonymous):

-4

OpenStudy (anonymous):

thats my final answer y=4x/5?

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

Cheaters hehehe

OpenStudy (anonymous):

hey you, I've never used that page its my first time cheating

OpenStudy (anonymous):

you want to take that derivative, evaluate at \(-4\) etc donkey work

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

if you really want to do things very quickly, you can plot the function f(x) in geogebra, then plot the point (-4,f(-4)) then after those 2 things are down, you can use the tangents feature to get the equation/graph of the tangent line

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okay now I'm lost ... lol

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

but ideally you should know how to do a problem like this and use tools like wolfram alpha and geogebra as a way to check your answer

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

why don't you do it with the point slope method, you are looking for the tangent line at a point

OpenStudy (anonymous):

can you show me?

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

well you know how to find the slope using limit process do you?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

no,i do not

OpenStudy (anonymous):

jim!!! you're back :)

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

Actually I'm not sure if the question requires to not use the derivative like @satellite73 used it

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes, ideally i think i'll be using wolfram to check my answers

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@satellite73 is super smart too, maybe he approached the question a different way, but still get the correct answer

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes you need the derivative to find the slope there is not other way to do it

OpenStudy (anonymous):

but to take the derivative you need the quotient rule it is not impossible, but no fun we can do it if you like step by step

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okay sounds!!

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

First we need the derivative (use the quotient rule) \[\Large f(x) = \frac{64x}{(x^2+64)}\] \[\Large f^{\prime}(x) = \frac{64(x^2+64)-64x(2x)}{(x^2+64)^2}\] \[\Large f^{\prime}(x) = \frac{64x^2+4096-128x^2}{(x^2+64)^2}\] \[\Large f^{\prime}(x) = \frac{4096-64x^2}{(x^2+64)^2}\] ------------------------------------------------------- Then plug in x = -4 to find the slope of the tangent line at (-4,-16/5) \[\Large f^{\prime}(x) = \frac{4096-64x^2}{(x^2+64)^2}\] \[\Large f^{\prime}(-4) = \frac{4096-64(-4)^2}{((-4)^2+64)^2}\] \[\Large f^{\prime}(-4) = \frac{12}{25}\] ------------------------------------------------------- Use this slope, and the point (-4,-16/5), to get the equation of the tangent line \[\Large y = mx+b\] \[\Large y = \frac{12}{25}x+b\] \[\Large \frac{-16}{5} = \frac{12}{25}(-4)+b\] \[\Large \frac{-16}{5} = -\frac{48}{25}+b\] \[\Large \frac{-16}{5}+\frac{48}{25}=b\] \[\Large -\frac{32}{25}=b\] So that's why the equation of the tangent line is \[\Large y = \frac{12}{25}x-\frac{32}{25}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

lol i was hoping you would say no \[\left(\frac{f}{g}\right)'=\frac{g'f-f'g}{g^2}\] with \[f(x)=64x,f'(x)=64,g(x)=x^2+64, g'(x)=2x\]

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

it should be f' * g - g' * f

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@jim_thompson5910 Wow thank you!!! the derivative part i kinda get now, i can actually practice them and check them with wolfram, thank you:)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yeah i messed up

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

not sure what you mean satellite73

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

oh ok

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\left(\frac{f}{g}\right)'=\frac{gf'-fg'}{g^2}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@satellite73 ahhh I'm sorry!!!:( i'll try to practice more so you won't have to go step by step that much !:) Thanks to you too!!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

thats my final answer right? y=12/25x 32/25

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

\[\Large y = \frac{12}{25}x-\frac{32}{25}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

with a minus sign

OpenStudy (anonymous):

thank you guys!!! It was correct, as usual!! lol

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I'm going to screen shot all the steps and practice those lol

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@sateliite!!!

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

you write satellite73 after an @ symbol, so @satellite73 you have to use the full name with numbers and everything (matching it up perfectly) for it to work

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

and if you're trying to get the attention of other mods, you can message anyone who has a purple avatar/icon (they should have "moderator" under their names)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@satellite73 help me

OpenStudy (anonymous):

:) Thank you, always help me with everything! @jim_thompson5910

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

np

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