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OpenStudy (anonymous):

I feel so helpless....

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\frac{ 5 }{ x-3 }\ge\frac{ 4 }{ x-2 }\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@amistre64 @ganeshie8 @phi @ParthKohli @thomaster

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@Australopithecus

OpenStudy (anonymous):

why is it \[\frac{ 5 }{ x-3 }-\frac{ 4 }{ x-2 }\ge0\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

instead of \[\frac{ 5 }{ x-3 }-\frac{ 4 }{ x+2 }\ge0\]

OpenStudy (knowledge):

because there is something called the addition/subtraction property of inequality which means that adding or subtracting to both sides of an inequality does not affect the nature of the inequality. When subtract \[\frac{ 4 }{ x-2 }\] the result stays the same on both sides \[\frac{ 4 }{ x+2 }\] is a different fraction altogether. Consequently when you subtract the first fraction from both sides, the first fraction does not change into the second fraction.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

can you keep solving the problem

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\frac{ 5(x-2) }{ (x-3)(x-2) }-\frac{ 4(x-3) }{ (x-3)(x-2) }\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

why does it turn into this? where do the other (x-3)(x-2) go? \[\frac{ 5(x-2)-4(x-3) }{ (x-3)(x-2) }\ge0\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

LCM

OpenStudy (anonymous):

?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

you take the LCM.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

can you elaborate

OpenStudy (anonymous):

like \[\frac{ 1 }{ 2 }+\frac{ 1 }{ 2 }=\frac{ 2 }{ 2 } = 1\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yea but in this case

OpenStudy (aum):

\[\large \frac ab - \frac cd = \frac{ad-bc}{bd} \]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i know that but shouldnt it be more? like in the denominator shouldnt it be (x-3) (x-3) (x-2)(x-2)

OpenStudy (aum):

No. The least COMMON denominator is (x-3)(x-2)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

hmmm okay gotcha

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i still dont understand why bringing it to the other side doesn't make it a (x+2) instead of a (x-2)

OpenStudy (aum):

There is a negative sign in front of the entire fraction. \(\Large \frac{4}{x-2}\) on the right hand side becomes \(\Large -\frac{4}{x-2}\) on the right hand side.

OpenStudy (aum):

I meant on the left hand side.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

but why doesn't it become a negative x+2

OpenStudy (anonymous):

hmmm okay and theres no other instances where its not like this right?

OpenStudy (aum):

You are changing the sign on just one part of a fraction rather than the whole fraction which is wrong. It is either \(\Large -\frac{4}{x-2}\) or \(\Large +\frac{4}{2-x}\)

OpenStudy (aum):

No. 50 / (20 - 10) = 5 If you take it to the other side it becomes either - 50 / (20 - 10) = -5 OR + 50 / (10 - 20) = 50 / (-10) = -5. But if you change the sign on just a part of the fraction then it becomes: 50 / (20 + 10) = 5/3 2hich is wrong.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

wait what? that last part...

OpenStudy (aum):

You were asking why 4/(x-2) when taken to the other side does not become -4/(x+2). If I take 50 / (20 - 10) to the other side it is NOT -50 / (20 + 10) which is -5/3. It should be -50/(20-10) = -5.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okay gotcha well can you help me solve the rest of this problem?

OpenStudy (aum):

\[ \frac{ 5 }{ x-3 }\ge\frac{ 4 }{ x-2 } \\ \text{Subtract } ~ \frac{ 4 }{ x-2 } ~~\text{from both sides: } \\ \frac{ 5 }{ x-3 }-\frac{ 4 }{ x-2 } \ge 0\\ \frac{ 5(x-2) }{ (x-3)(x-2) }-\frac{ 4(x-3) }{ (x-2)(x-3) } \ge 0\\ \]

OpenStudy (aum):

\[ \frac{ 5(x-2) }{ (x-3)(x-2) }-\frac{ 4(x-3) }{ (x-2)(x-3) } \ge 0\\ \frac{ 5(x-2)-4(x-3) }{ (x-3)(x-2) } \ge 0\\ \frac{ 5x-10-4x+12) }{ (x-3)(x-2) } \ge 0\\ \frac{ x+2 }{ (x-3)(x-2) } \ge 0\\ \]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\frac{ 5x-10-4x+12 }{ (x-3)(x-2) }\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okay got it

OpenStudy (anonymous):

x=-2 x=3 x=2

OpenStudy (aum):

\[ \frac{ x+2 }{ (x-3)(x-2) } \ge 0\\ \] The important values of x here are the ones that will make the numerator/denominator zero. They are x = -2, 2 and 3. Pick a suitable point in the interval (-infinity, -2); (-2, 2); (2, 3) and (3, +infinity) and see in which intervals it is >= 0.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

do you always have to plug in random numbers to check your answer?

OpenStudy (aum):

It is an easy method to quickly find the solution. In the interval (-infinity, -2), let us pick -3. (-3+2) / { (-3-3)*(-3-2) } negative / positive = negative. So LHS is not >= 0 here.

OpenStudy (aum):

You don't have to actually find the number just the sign will do.

OpenStudy (aum):

For (-2, 2) pick x = 0.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

wait is it > or the greater than or equal to sign

OpenStudy (aum):

The original problem had >= (greater than or equal to sign) and so it will continue to remain as greater than or equal to sign throughout.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh okay is that what you mean by ">"

OpenStudy (aum):

So we ruled out (-infinity, -2). The interval (-2, 2) is a solution. But since it is "greater than OR Equal to zero" we have to INCLUDE -2 in the solution and so the interval becomes [-2, 2). Try the other two intervals too.

OpenStudy (aum):

The open bracket [ includes the point -2, but the open parenthesis ( excludes the point -2.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okay I'm gonna be honest with you.... this part is the only part i dont understand.... how do you know what to put? Like what am i trying out?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i understand the meanings of the brackets but like I don't understand what I'm putting in it...

OpenStudy (aum):

Looking at the expression we figured what values make the numerator or the denominator zero. Then we arranged those x values in increasing order. They were -2, 2 and 3. |dw:1411239199895:dw|

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