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OpenStudy (itiaax):

COMPLEX NUMBERS HELP NEEDED. *question attached below* will give medal :)

OpenStudy (itiaax):

I am having trouble with how to go about starting this problem since the numerators and denominators are either in Cartesian or complex numbers form. Any suggestions?

OpenStudy (ahsome):

Have you heard multiplying by the conjugate?

OpenStudy (ahsome):

Its like the additive inverse.

OpenStudy (itiaax):

Yes

OpenStudy (itiaax):

So should I multiply the first fraction by its conjugate?

OpenStudy (ahsome):

Do that with the fraction with the complex number.

OpenStudy (itiaax):

Alrighty!

OpenStudy (ahsome):

Then, make them all have the same denominator by multiplying a fraction with another which gives the same denominator.

OpenStudy (itiaax):

The one with the complex number in its denominator I should multiply by its conjugate?

OpenStudy (ahsome):

Yes

OpenStudy (ahsome):

That way you can get rid of the \(i\)

OpenStudy (itiaax):

I'm a little confused as to how to make all of them have the same denominator by multiplying a fraction with another which gives the same denominator :S

OpenStudy (ahsome):

Ok then. I will show the basic steps

OpenStudy (ahsome):

Equation: \[\frac{2y+4i}{2x+y}-\frac{y}{x-i}=0\] Multiply \(\frac{y}{x-i}\) by the conjugate

OpenStudy (itiaax):

Let me multiply it out :)

OpenStudy (ahsome):

\[\frac{2y+4i}{2x+y}-\frac{y}{x-i}*\frac{x+i}{x+i}=0\]

OpenStudy (ahsome):

Ok

OpenStudy (ahsome):

This equals to: \[\frac{2y+4i}{2x+y}-\frac{yx+yi}{x^2+1}=0\]

OpenStudy (itiaax):

Okay, I got that when I multiplied :)

OpenStudy (ahsome):

Good. Now, you need both to have the same denominator. Do you know how to do that?

OpenStudy (itiaax):

Clueless :S

OpenStudy (ahsome):

Thats fine ;) Equation: \[\frac{2y+4i}{2x+y}-\frac{yx+yi}{x^2+1}=0\] Move the \(-\frac{yx+yi}{x^2+1}\) to the RHS \[\frac{2y+4i}{2x+y}=\frac{yx+yi}{x^2+1}\] Now use cross multiplication: \[(2y+4i)(x^2+1)=(yx+yi)(2x+y)\]

OpenStudy (ahsome):

Does that make sense?

OpenStudy (itiaax):

Yes, it does :D

OpenStudy (ahsome):

:D Do that

OpenStudy (itiaax):

Okay, give me a sec :)

OpenStudy (ahsome):

\[2x^2y+4ix^2+2y+4i=2x^2y+xy^2+2ixy+iy^2\]

OpenStudy (ahsome):

Boy, THATS complicated

OpenStudy (ahsome):

Simplify equation: \[4ix^2+2y+4i−xy^2+2ixy−iy^22=0\]

OpenStudy (itiaax):

I'm good up to that point :)

OpenStudy (ahsome):

So. what do you need to do now?

OpenStudy (itiaax):

Regroup and factorise?

OpenStudy (ahsome):

Good. From there, you can create two equations to get both x and y

OpenStudy (itiaax):

Let me work on it :)

OpenStudy (ahsome):

Ok then

OpenStudy (itiaax):

@dumbcow , no there aren't any posted answers :O

OpenStudy (itiaax):

I'm stuck :/

OpenStudy (ahsome):

We can input it directly to a calculator. Let me see what the numbers are given...

OpenStudy (dumbcow):

nevermind... you get a hyperbola for possible solutions

OpenStudy (ahsome):

\[y=2(x-i)\] According to \(\text{Wolfram Alpha}\)

OpenStudy (ahsome):

\[x=\frac{1}{2}(y+2i)\] According to \(\text{Wolfram Alpha}\)

OpenStudy (itiaax):

The question said x and y are real values?

OpenStudy (ahsome):

That's whats confusing me. I haven't studied \(\text{Hypebola}\) in detail yet, so I am not sure about the specific procedure.

OpenStudy (dumbcow):

@Ahsome , did you separate the real terms from "i" terms, then set each equal to 0 this is only way to make numerator 0 then from there, set the 2 equations equal --> real terms = imaginary terms

OpenStudy (ahsome):

@dumbcow, No, I did not do that. But that sounds like the right thing to do.

OpenStudy (itiaax):

From whiich step do I have to separate the real terms from the imaginary terms?

OpenStudy (dumbcow):

hold on sorry, this problem is giving me fits as soon as i got the right equations, now im finding all these extraneous solutions maybe im doing something wrong

OpenStudy (itiaax):

Alrighty

OpenStudy (dumbcow):

ok i got it now finally real terms: \[2x^2 y +2y -2x^2 y - xy^2 = 0\] imaginary terms: \[4x^2 +4-2xy-y^2 = 0\] you can simplify "real" equation \[\rightarrow 2y - xy^2 = 0\] \[\rightarrow 2 -xy = 0\] \[\rightarrow y =\frac{2}{x}\] sub that into "imaginary" equation \[\rightarrow 4x^2 +4 -2x(\frac{2}{x}) - (\frac{2}{x})^2 = 0\] \[\rightarrow 4x^2 - \frac{4}{x^2} = 0\] \[\rightarrow 4x^4 = 4\] \[\rightarrow x = \pm 1\] There are 2 solutions: (1,2) (-1,-2)

OpenStudy (itiaax):

wow! Thank you so much! It's all clear! :)

OpenStudy (dumbcow):

yw

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