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OpenStudy (anonymous):

How do I calculate the limit of x*exp(-x) ?

OpenStudy (cwrw238):

as x approaches what value?

OpenStudy (cwrw238):

as x approaches + infinity?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Going to infinity.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I was trying to take the derivative of this product but I can't get it right.

OpenStudy (tkhunny):

You don't "calculate" it. You find it or determine it.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@tkhunny Okay, that's right. I didn't express myself properly. So, I was trying to apply the l'Hopital rule but it seems to complicate the matters.

OpenStudy (amistre64):

e^-x controls the function for large x doesnt it?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

x/e^x e^x grows much faster than x lending us to conclude with a high degree of certainity that this goes to 0

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@amistre64 Well, yes. The exponent vanishes faster. I thought there is some more general explanation. I mean, what if I had x^4*exp(-x)?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

e^x still grows faster

OpenStudy (amistre64):

my initial idea was the taylor polynomial

OpenStudy (cwrw238):

x * e^-x = e / e^x differentiate top and bottom of fraction gives you 1 / e^x

OpenStudy (cwrw238):

l'hopital rule should do it - if i've interpreted the problem correctly

OpenStudy (cwrw238):

typo x/e^x not e / e^x

OpenStudy (amistre64):

lhop is for 0/0, can it be applied to inf/inf? i recall my prof insisting the 0/0 criteria

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@amistre64 We've applied it to that case, as well.

OpenStudy (cwrw238):

yes it can be applied to inf/inf

OpenStudy (cwrw238):

so the limit is 0

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@cwrw238 Yes, thanks. Got it.

OpenStudy (cwrw238):

yw

OpenStudy (anonymous):

How about the case \[x^4\exp(-x)\]. If I find the derivative, I get this: \[4x^3 exp(-x) - x^4 exp(-x) \]. So, it turns out to be recursive as far as I see.

OpenStudy (cwrw238):

yes - not sure about that one

OpenStudy (cwrw238):

if you keep on differentiating it would be pretty complex!!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yes, I noticed. Indeed, that's why I posted the question. I can't just determine intuitively which increases/decreases faster.

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

\[\large \dfrac{x^{1000000000}}{e^x}\]

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Notice that after applying L'Hopital's rule a billion times, the numerator vanishes but the denominator doesn't move an inch. e^x is e^x forever

OpenStudy (cwrw238):

ah!!

OpenStudy (cwrw238):

so the limit is 0

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So, how do I know at which point the numerator wins over the exponent?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

\[\large \large \dfrac{x^{1000000000}}{e^x} \leadsto \dfrac{c}{e^x}\]

OpenStudy (cwrw238):

so simple really ...

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

OS is dancing on my side, i see all replies jumbled up..

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

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