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OpenStudy (marissalovescats):

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OpenStudy (marissalovescats):

OpenStudy (marissalovescats):

OpenStudy (marissalovescats):

I have to do parts b and c again, since I did a right.

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

I agree. Part a) looks perfect. Now I'm checking b

OpenStudy (marissalovescats):

Well I know I did something to get points off since I got -1 and not -2

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

for part a) you mean?

OpenStudy (marissalovescats):

No b

OpenStudy (marissalovescats):

a is worth 3pts b is worth 2pts and c is worth 4pts

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

ok one sec

OpenStudy (marissalovescats):

So part b lol

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

you have this right so far \[\Large r(x) = \frac{1}{\sqrt{g(2x)}}\] \[\Large r(x) = \frac{1}{\sqrt{u}}\] \[\Large r(x) = \frac{1}{u^{1/2}}\] \[\Large r(x) = u^{-1/2}\] \[\Large r^{\prime}(x) = \frac{-1}{2}u^{-3/2}*u^{\prime}(x)\] \[\Large r^{\prime}(x) = \frac{-1}{2}u^{-3/2}*g^{\prime}(2x)\]

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

so effectively we have \[\Large r^{\prime}(x) = \frac{-1}{2}(g(2x))^{-3/2}*g^{\prime}(2x)\]

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

as for the rest of your work in part b), I'm not sure where you're getting that

OpenStudy (marissalovescats):

Because x = 2 so we use where x= 2

OpenStudy (marissalovescats):

and 2*2 = 4

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

but I would just plug x = 2 into r ' (x) and evaluate \[\Large r^{\prime}(x) = \frac{-1}{2}(g(2x))^{-3/2}*g^{\prime}(2x)\] \[\Large r^{\prime}(2) = \frac{-1}{2}(g(2*2))^{-3/2}*g^{\prime}(2*2)\] \[\Large r^{\prime}(2) = \frac{-1}{2}(g(4))^{-3/2}*g^{\prime}(4)\] \[\Large r^{\prime}(2) = \frac{-1}{2}(9)^{-3/2}*3\] \[\Large r^{\prime}(2) = -\frac{1}{18}\]

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

I see that, but you somehow broke it up but didn't put it back together? I'm not sure exactly what happened

OpenStudy (marissalovescats):

yeah but what about the ^3/2

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

what do you mean?

OpenStudy (marissalovescats):

You didn't do anything with the ^3/2

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

you mean when I jumped from \[\Large r^{\prime}(2) = \frac{-1}{2}(9)^{-3/2}*3\] to \[\Large r^{\prime}(2) = -\frac{1}{18}\] ??

OpenStudy (marissalovescats):

Yes I don't see where you used it

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

\[\Large r^{\prime}(2) = \frac{-1}{2}(9)^{-3/2}*3\] \[\Large r^{\prime}(2) = \frac{-1}{2}*\frac{1}{9^{3/2}}*3\] \[\Large r^{\prime}(2) = \frac{-1}{2}*\frac{1}{(9^{1/2})^3}*3\] \[\Large r^{\prime}(2) = \frac{-1}{2}*\frac{1}{(\sqrt{9})^3}*3\] \[\Large r^{\prime}(2) = \frac{-1}{2}*\frac{1}{(3)^3}*3\] \[\Large r^{\prime}(2) = \frac{-1}{2}*\frac{1}{27}*3\] \[\Large r^{\prime}(2) = \frac{-1}{2}*\frac{1}{27}*\frac{3}{1}\] \[\Large r^{\prime}(2) = \frac{-1*1*3}{2*27*1}\] \[\Large r^{\prime}(2) = \frac{-3}{54}\] \[\Large r^{\prime}(2) = -\frac{1}{18}\]

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

you probably don't have to go into that much detail when it comes to the steps

OpenStudy (marissalovescats):

I have that answer....

OpenStudy (marissalovescats):

I have on my paper r'(2)=-1/18...

OpenStudy (marissalovescats):

So I don't see why I got a point off then.

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

hmm maybe the teacher didn't like your approach? not sure

OpenStudy (marissalovescats):

He wouldn't do that he like goes surely off of answer usually idk I'll rewrite it ans approach him tomorrow.

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

good idea

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

you have the right final answer, it's just not 100% clear on how you get that

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

so that might be his issue

OpenStudy (marissalovescats):

Eh it was clear to me lol Anyways, in part c, I got up to the point and I know all that stuff is right (that's why I got -3 and not -4) but I didn't know how to finish off the problem.

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

well a lot of the times it all comes down to presentation and communication

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

time*

OpenStudy (marissalovescats):

I wrote equations thinking I'd have a light bulb go off, but I didn't so ignore those lol

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

c) Find the values of 'a' if the tangent lines to f(g(x)) and g(f(x)) are perpendicular at x = 3

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

if we had 2 lines that were perpendicular, what can we say about their slopes?

OpenStudy (marissalovescats):

They are negative reciprocals of each other,

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

correct, a somewhat equivalent statement is: "the slopes multiply to -1"

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

so that means p ' (3) * q ' (3) = -1 where... p(x) = f(g(x)) q(x) = g(f(x))

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

your first step is to find p ' (x) ie derive f(g(x)) with respect to x

OpenStudy (marissalovescats):

It's f'(2a^2)(1/2)

OpenStudy (marissalovescats):

Or aka f'(g(x))(g'(x)

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

you got f ' ( g(x) ) * g ' (x) which is correct then you plug in x = 3 f ' ( g(x) ) * g ' (x) f ' ( g(3) ) * g ' (3) f ' ( 4 ) * (1/2) (2a^2) * (1/2) a^2

OpenStudy (marissalovescats):

And the other is g'(1/a)(5)

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

be careful...saying f'(2a^2) is NOT correct

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

saying f ' (4) is the same as 2a^2 is correct

OpenStudy (marissalovescats):

Oh I know how to solve for a. Gotcha.

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

g( f(x) ) g ' ( f(x) ) * f ' (x) g ' ( f(3) ) * f ' (3) g ' ( 1 ) * 5 (1/a)*5 5/a

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

again, be careful: g'(1/a) is incorrect

OpenStudy (marissalovescats):

Yeah I realized that now lol

OpenStudy (marissalovescats):

Idk why I did that. I was under pressure there was like 5 mins left.

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

anyways, after deriving both f(g(x)) and g(f(x)), we get the following a^2 & 5/a

OpenStudy (marissalovescats):

a=-1/5

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

in order for the tangent lines to be perpendicular at x = 3, the would have to multiply to -1 so, (a^2)*(5/a) = -1

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

a = -1/5 is correct

OpenStudy (marissalovescats):

Yeah I know lol

OpenStudy (marissalovescats):

Oh?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

hmm? what's your question?

OpenStudy (marissalovescats):

a^2(5/a) =-1 is 5a^2/a the two as divide into each other leaving 5a=-1?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

correct

OpenStudy (marissalovescats):

So a= -1/5?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

also correct

OpenStudy (marissalovescats):

You just told me it was wrong?

OpenStudy (marissalovescats):

OH i thought you said it was incorrect lol im crazy.

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

lol that's fine, I was wondering where the issue was

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