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OpenStudy (zephyr141):

help please. Rewriting a Potential Energy Function.

OpenStudy (zephyr141):

A proton with mass "m" moves in one dimension. The potential-energy function is\[U(x)=\frac{ \alpha }{ x^2 }-\frac{ \beta }{ x }\] where alpha and beta are positive constants. The proton is released from rest at \[x _{0}^2=\frac{ \alpha }{ \beta }\] show that U(x) can be written as \[U(x)=\frac{ \alpha }{ x _{0}^2 }\left[ \left( \frac{ x _{0} }{ x } \right)^2-\frac{ x _{0} }{ x } \right]\]

OpenStudy (zephyr141):

if at the very least, please help me get on the right start. thank you to any who comment.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I must be making an error. I can't get that expression. The last term I only get a 1/x, not xo/x..

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I just noticed that you can show what you need to if the initial condition is different. Are you sure the condition isn't Xo = alpha/beta?

OpenStudy (zephyr141):

crap. yeah. there's not supposed to be second power there. i'm sorry. i was typing quickly before my circuits class.

OpenStudy (zephyr141):

it is \[x _{0}=\frac{ \alpha }{ \beta }\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Okay, so it is as follows: \[x_{o} = \frac{\alpha}{\beta} ;\beta=\frac{\alpha}{x_{o}}\] \[U(x) = \frac{ \alpha }{ x^{2} }-\frac{\beta}{x}=\frac{\alpha}{x^{2}}-\frac{\alpha}{x_{o}x}=\frac{\alpha}{x_{o}^{2}}\left[ \frac{x_{o}^{2}}{x^{2}}-\frac{x_{o}}{x} \right]=\frac{\alpha}{x_{o}^{2}}\left[ \left( \frac{x_{o}}{x} \right)^{2}-\frac{x_{o}}{x} \right]\]

OpenStudy (zephyr141):

oh wow that's how i started this off in the first place. i saw that the final product didn't have a beta in it so i tried solving for beta in the initial condition but i got intimidated by the amount of arithmetic going on so i stopped and came here for help. anyway. thank you!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Not a problem.

OpenStudy (zephyr141):

ok now mastering physics is asking me to solve for U(x0) and to express it in terms of \[\alpha, x_{0}, m, x\] i'm not so sure how to start this...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

All you should have to do is replace any 'x' in the U(x) equation with 'x0'. Things should cancel quite a bit. You're essentially solving for the initial energy, since it's the pot. energy at rest.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Hmm, I didn't peek at it when I gave my suggestion, but yes, the brackets go to 0. That's odd. I'll have to think about it for a few moments and see if anything comes to mind.

OpenStudy (zephyr141):

so.... uhhh... i just put in 0 into the answer.... and that was it... yeah.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

lol well, mastering physics is still as stupid as i remember it to be

OpenStudy (zephyr141):

haha yeah. it's annoying. ok one more question and i'll shall leave you alone. it's asking for me to calculate v(x). could you just direct me on to the right path? i can take it from there. if so that would be the greatest. also thanks for the help. it's greatly appreciated.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Umm, I'm going to guess v(x) means velocity. We know that v(x0) = 0, because it said that is when it was at rest. If this is true, then at x=x0, U(x) would be the total energy. With no motion, there is no kinetic energy. U(x0) should equal the total energy E at that initial condition. E = U(x0) = 0 Now E= K + U ; K = 1/2 * m * v^2 0 = K + U(x) K = - U(x) 1/2 * m * v^2 = -U(x) v(x) = sqrt[-2U(x)/m] \[v(x) = \sqrt{\frac{ -2 }{ m }\left( \frac{\alpha}{x_{0}^{2}} \right)\left[ \frac{ x_{0}^{2} }{ x^{2} }-\frac{x_{0}}{x} \right]}\] If I haven't made any stupid mistakes, I think it makes sense to me.

OpenStudy (zephyr141):

thanks. i didn't make that connection there but after seeing the steps you did it's obvious and looks quite simple. now there's the next question, "For what value of x is the speed of the proton a maximum?", any insight on how to approach this?

OpenStudy (zephyr141):

i wonder if i should just rewrite v(x) and solve for x.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Calculus! To find the maximum of a function, take the derivative and set it equal to 0. Then solve for x and that will be the position with the max speed.

OpenStudy (zephyr141):

ok. i tried it and i got a crazy looking. result... oh yeah. x(0) is a constant. spoke to the teacher and got the same answer as take the derivative. but i'm not to sure of this. haha

OpenStudy (zephyr141):

so far I have \[\frac{ 1 }{ 2 }\left( \frac{ -2 \alpha }{ mx^2 }+\frac{ 2 \alpha }{ mx_{0}x } \right)^{-\frac{ 1 }{ 2 }}\left( \frac{ 4 \alpha }{ mx^3 }-\frac{ 2 \alpha }{ mx_{0}x^2 } \right)\] did i do this wrong or.... what?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

It looks like you are right so far

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes, i have the same thing you have

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Given: \[\frac{dv(x)}{dx}=\frac{1}{2}\left( \frac{-2\alpha}{mx^{2}}+\frac{2\alpha}{mx_{0}x} \right) \left( \frac{4\alpha}{mx^{3}}-\frac{2\alpha}{mx_{0}x^{2}}\right)=0\] Divide out the 1/2: \[\frac{dv(x)}{dx}=\left( \frac{-2\alpha}{mx^{2}}+\frac{2\alpha}{mx_{0}x} \right) \left( \frac{4\alpha}{mx^{3}}-\frac{2\alpha}{mx_{0}x^{2}}\right)=0\] First term solution: \[\left( \frac{-2\alpha}{mx^{2}}+\frac{2\alpha}{mx_{0}x} \right) =0\]\[\left( \frac{2\alpha}{mx}\right)\left( \frac{-1}{x}+\frac{1}{x_{0}}\right) =0\]The first term is x = 0, which is trivial.\[\left( \frac{-1}{x}+\frac{1}{x_{0}}\right) =0\]This gives a solution of x = x0. Second term solution: \[\left( \frac{4\alpha}{mx^{3}}-\frac{2\alpha}{mx_{0}x^{2}}\right)=0\]\[\left( \frac{2\alpha}{mx^{2}}\right)\left( \frac{2}{x}-\frac{1}{x_{0}}\right)=0\]The first terms is x = 0, which is again trivial.\[\left( \frac{2}{x}-\frac{1}{x_{0}}\right)=0\]This gives a solution of x = 2(x0). Solution: We found two trivial cases of x = 0. We found one case of x = x0. We found one case of x = 2(x0). x = 0 doesn't matter. x = x0 is the place the proton starts, so it doesn't matter. That means that the max speed occurs at x = 2(x0).

OpenStudy (zephyr141):

wow. that's it right there. thank you again.

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