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OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

Help with descartes rules of signs

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

g(x) = x^2 − 5x

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

this has one change if i am correct

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

@ganeshie8

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

yes so one positive root for sure ?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

what about g(-x) ?

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

for -x also 1

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

because x^2 doesn't change

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

but 5x does

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

g(-x) = (-x)^2 − 5(-x) = x^2 + 5x

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

there are no sign changes, so there won't be any negative real roots

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

wait i lied

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

yah for some odd reason i still pictured - 5x in my mind and this is why it is good to write out things aha

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

so I believe for this it would only be 1 positive zero then?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

yes as you can see x^2-5x = x(x-5) so x = 0 and x=5 are the zeroes

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Notice that the positive zero is 5

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

0 is not positive, not negative

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

alright. Could you do two more with me though just to make sure i get it aha

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

ok sure

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

Use Descartes' Rule of Signs to determine the number of positive real zeros of the following function. f(x) = x^3 − 6x^2 + 11x − 6 3 changes and for -x -x^3 - 6x^2 -11x -6 so 0 change for negative

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

f(x) is sufficient to determine positive real zeroes

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

f(x) = x^3 − 6x^2 + 11x − 6 3 changes

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

so there will be `3` or `1` positive real zeroes

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

because the complex zeroes in pairs...

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

wait why or 1 though?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

thats how descartes rule of signs works

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

oks

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

if you have `n` sign changes in f(x) : the positive real zeroes can be `n` or `n-2` or `n-4` or ...

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

for example if u have `5` sign changes in f(x) : the positive real zeroes can be `5` or `3` or `1`

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

ohhhhh oks that makes sense now

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

good

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

Use Descartes' Rule of Signs to determine the maximum number of positive and negative real zeros of the following function: f(x) = 2x^4 − 15x^3 + 23x^2 + 15x − 25

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

3 changes and for -x 2x^4 +15x^3 +23x^2 -15x -25 1 change

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

So 1 negative zero for sure

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

since the degree is 4, there can be atmost 4 different zeroes only

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

1 negative zero 3 positive zeroes / 0 complex zeroes OR 1 negative zero 1 positive zeroes / 2 complex zeroes

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

it could be like that ^^

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

what is a complex zero exactly aha

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

they are zeroes of form : a + ib

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

real zeroes are of form : a

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

ahhh i see

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

Thank you for your help once again friend

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

np :)

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