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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Evaluate https://wca.sooschools.com/media/g_alg02_ccss_2013/11/img_alg02u11c02q08d_12.gif for θ = 30°. The value of this expression is

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@Preetha

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@e.mccormick

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@amistre64

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

Do you have a list of identities you have learned so far?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

by identities do you mean csc, cos, sin? The answer supposed to be constant

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

Like the Pythagorean Identity: \(\sin ^2 \theta + \cos ^2 \theta =1\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

cos2θ + sin2θ = 1

OpenStudy (anonymous):

the 0 with the line going through it doesnt show the same when i send a message

OpenStudy (anonymous):

(cos 0withLine)^2 + (sin 0withLine)^2=1

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

Yah, I use \(\LaTeX\) to make it: `\(\sin ^2 \theta + \cos ^2 \theta =1\)` makes \(\sin ^2 \theta + \cos ^2 \theta =1\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\(\sin ^2 \theta + \cos ^2 \theta =1\) is the answer?

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

No. That is an identity. Have you gone over identities at all?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

a tiny bit. This question is the hardest and I need to pass it

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

Well, I think you can use identities to simplify it. Then it should be easier to solve.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok

OpenStudy (anonymous):

How do I use this one?

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

Well, it might or might not be used. You can replace anything with an identity value because they mean the same thing. Now, another thing to remember is the basic rules of algebra. You were given: \([\sin^2 \theta - (\cos^2\theta)(\sin^2\theta) ]^{-1}\) Do you see anything in there you could factor? That might make it easier just by doing that. Putting everything in terms of sine and cosine can also help a lot of times, but this time it already is. And you can do algebra to the identities as well. \(\sin ^2 \theta + \cos ^2 \theta =1\) implies two things by subtracting off either the sine or the cosine: \(\cos ^2 \theta =1-\sin ^2 \theta\) \(\sin ^2 \theta=1-\cos ^2 \theta \)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

fctor 30?

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

The 30 is theta. So yes, you could put in the \(\dfrac{\sqrt{3}}{2}\) and \(\dfrac{1}{2}\), square them and do all the math. That works too. I was just saying that it might be easier if you simplify it a bit first.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I don't really understand trig that well so I'm kind of stuck with (this) last problem because I received very little information concerning the Pythagorean Identities.

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

Identities are all about replacing things.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Ok

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

Now, you can work it like it is, putting in values from the unit circle and squaring them and solve it, or: you can do identity subsitutions right off, then simplify it, and then do unit circle stuff, or: you can do algebra and then identity subsitutions, then simplify it, and then do unit circle stuff. Any way you do it you should get the same answer.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

what is the answer?

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

Have not solve it. I am trying to find out what you need to know so that you can solve it.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I am new to trig, I took it yesterday. I did the rest of my problems by myself but on this question I don't have a clue on what to do at all I'm just trying to pass this question

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

OK, so you know how to find the values of sine and cosine at 30 degrees?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

No, my connection going in and out

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

Do you have a unit circle?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

No I don't see one. I read somewhere that the circle deals with pi 180 degrees

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

Did they give you anythign that said what sine and cosine of 30 degrees is? The Trig sheet here might help: http://tutorial.math.lamar.edu/cheat_table.aspx

OpenStudy (anonymous):

cos230° + sin230° = 1 https://wca.sooschools.com/media/g_alg02_ccss_2013/11/p1_2ppwr2.gif = 1 3/4 + 1/4=1 1=1

OpenStudy (anonymous):

First part: cos^2 30degrees + sin^2 30degrees = 1

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Second Part really looks like this: https://wca.sooschools.com/media/g_alg02_ccss_2013/11/p1_2ppwr2.gif

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

You would only use that to do a substitution. Your problem is not in that form, so it does not work that way. \([\sin^2 \theta - (\cos^2\theta)(\sin^2\theta) ]^{-1}\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

what way would it work

OpenStudy (anonymous):

the picture really looks like (sqrt 3^2/2) + ( 1^2/2)= 1

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@e.mccormick

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

You are using the wrong calculation. Do not use the identity. Use your original.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I still don't know how to do the problem period

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

I showed you the identity ti see if you knew about them. You seem confused by them so I am saying that rather than try and use the identity you can just go back to the original: \([\sin^2 \theta - (\cos^2\theta)(\sin^2\theta) ]^{-1}\)

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

Also, it is good to know that \(\sin^2 \theta\) means \((\sin \theta)^2\). So if you have \(\theta = 30^\circ\) you can put in what theta is, square the values, and do the multiplication and subtraction.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

square 30?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I received some information from open study, Well, you can factor out a sin^2 to get: (sin^2(1-cos^2))^-1 1-cos^2 = sin^2 (sin^2)(sin^2)^-1 (sin^4)^-1 sin^-4 Either that is your answer, or csc^4. The answer must be a constant

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@e.mccormick

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

Yes, that is one way to do it. That will get you the valid solution. I did it 4 ways by now and all 4 I got the same answer. But I want you to get an answer using what you know. Did they give you a list of sine and cosine for special angles? The sine and cosine on a 30-60-90 triangle?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

No they didn't

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

Without that information, it is impossible to solve. OK. So here is the typical 60-60-60 traingle with sides of 1: |dw:1412882243021:dw|

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

Sorry about the delay, had to feal with a problem user making threats... anyhow: Let me cut it in half: |dw:1412882528964:dw| I now have a 30/60/90 with to known sides, 1 and 1/2

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

OOOPS! I typed 15 where I meant 30.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

haha

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

Anyhow... I can use the Pythagorean therom to find the other side, which is \(\dfrac{\sqrt{3}}{2}\) |dw:1412882602371:dw|

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