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OpenStudy (itiaax):

Can I have some help with this differentiation question please? *question attached* will give medal

OpenStudy (itiaax):

Can I have some steps as well as an explanation of the steps of how to do this question, please?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

dy/dt ---- dx/dt

OpenStudy (amistre64):

what are dx/dt and dy/dt?

OpenStudy (itiaax):

Let me work it out :)

OpenStudy (itiaax):

Do I need to apply the product rule for dx/dt and dy/dt?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

since x(t) is a product and so is y(t) then yes

OpenStudy (itiaax):

Hmm, this is giving me a lot of trouble. Won't I have to apply the chain rule twice since sin2t is a composite function?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

what is the derivative of sin 2t ?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

sin(u) to u' cos(u) , the chain rule applies yes

OpenStudy (amistre64):

2t is a product, and we can use the product rule .... [2t]' = 2't + 2t' 2' = 0 and t' = 1 [2t]' = 0t + 2 = 2

OpenStudy (itiaax):

So, we end up with 2cos2t

OpenStudy (amistre64):

yes :) for that portion of it

OpenStudy (itiaax):

And now, for dx/dt, I ended up with \[2e ^{2t}\sin2t + 2e ^{2t}\cos2t\]

OpenStudy (amistre64):

that worked our nice .... almost as if someone planned it that way :) dy/dt is a similar process

OpenStudy (itiaax):

:) And for the dy/dt I ended up with: \[2e ^{2t}\cos2t-2e ^{2t}\sin2t\]

OpenStudy (amistre64):

now the rest is trig identites right?

OpenStudy (itiaax):

Haha, yup! Now, dy/dx = \[\frac{ 2e ^{2t}\cos2t-2e ^{2t}\sin2t }{ 2e ^{2t}\sin2t+2e ^{2t}\cos2t }\]. And the two \[2e ^{2t}\cos2t\] will cancel out each other, right? So then how are we going to end up with a tan when there will be only sin remaining? :S

OpenStudy (amistre64):

cos(2t) doesnt factor out does it?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

and we dont always need to factor everything out ... but rather use it to our advantage as the need arises

OpenStudy (itiaax):

I don't understand :S

OpenStudy (amistre64):

when we convert one thing into another, the most useful properties we have are to add 0 or multiply by 1 factoring everything that factors and simplifying is not always the best course of action is all does a cos(2t) actually factor out tho? the e^(..) might be useless to us so we can get rid of them i agree

OpenStudy (itiaax):

No it doesn't factor, but it's both in the numerator and denominator, so isn't it cancelled out?

OpenStudy (itiaax):

If we divide by it

OpenStudy (amistre64):

perhaps: multiply by 1/cos(2t) top and bottom is multiplying by 1 \[\frac{ 1-\tan2t }{1+\tan2t}\] is what you get with your idea so far

hartnn (hartnn):

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