I want to pose a simple question.
There are infinite numbers and infinite even numbers , so does it mean that the set of all numbers has the same elements as the set of even numbers?
what is you question
ITS ON my profile
It is not a part of my homework or anything , the question is already asked above. I wantted your views about the statement
i think so
Yes @No.name
but in 1-10 there are 10 numbers and 5 even numbers
the set of even integers and the set of all numbers (I guess you mean complex) have a different cardinality. The even integers are countable where as the complex numbers aren't countable.
If somebody does not agree with my question let me know , i will present a simple proof
i mean not imaginary numbers
Still the real numbers are uncountable.
so the even numbers , but they seem to be unequal
whats the answer
even though both are uncountable , i hope you got what i mean
Well see this everybody :- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPA3bwVVzGI&list=PLOGi5-fAu8bEIw_xkj1FgKr7QY_Sahswy&index=4
What? I said the even integers are countable. The real numbers aren't.
even numbers are not countable they are infintely present in real numbers
where the set of real numbers is itself infinite
If we can find a bijection between the even integers and the integers, then that means the even integers are countable. And they are because f: integer->even integers defined by f(x)=2x.
Okay , that video just proves my statement incorrect and it says even numbers = all real numbers this is somewhat bizzare but see the video in free time
the video should should begin with "there are as many even numbers as all the integers"
The set of real numbers is not countable. A subset of the real numbers is the set (0,1) and we can not list all the numbers between 0 and 1 so there is not a bijection between the set of integers ant set (0,1) so therefore (0,1) is uncountable. And the real numbers are uncountable. And the complex numbers are uncountable.
Yeah actually infact all subset of real numbers has the same elements as real numbers
Not not all subsets...
real number set*
the set of integers is a subset of the real numbers
yes all even fractions
what is an even fraction?
it is tough to believe though
no not even or odd all fractions
lol @No.name you seem too excited about the video and numbers that you're inventing new terminology ;p
sry am i
my actual question is Is one infinity greater than other infinity?
indeed it is tough to believe but it will make sense if we thing a bit using the known infinite geometric series. why is below true : \(\large \sum \limits_{n=1}^{\infty} \dfrac{1}{2^n} = \sum \limits_{n=1}^{\infty - M} \dfrac{1}{2^n} \)
M is ?
M could be ANY number, large/small
``` my actual question is Is one infinity greater than other infinity? ``` using bijection stuff, it becomes easy to see why all countable infinite sets like : even numbers / whole numbers / integers have the same size
i have to learn bjection , or is it a 1 sec concept
i also don't have much exposure into fascinating infinities concept... im reading this at the moment http://math.stackexchange.com/questions/341605/as-many-even-numbers-as-natural-numbers
wow , i will read as much as i can get from that but see the video , it is good
ACtually george cantor proved it using set theories
watching it
out from my imagination power , too baffled right now
but still i am convinced
how baffling the decimal is a subset of whole numbers , still contains more elements than whole numbers.
Infinity i believe is continously expanding i believe
and the lesser infinty approaches a more greater infinity than it, that's what i think
so as georg cantor think to put a infinity between two infinities , it is impossible since you can't stop the infinity that is continuously creating subsets within it this awesome stufffff!
This video is even more amazing http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uj3_KqkI9Zo Not watching more videos my mind is already blown by this concept
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