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OpenStudy (kkutie7):

Solve for spring constant?

OpenStudy (kkutie7):

The question involves a 61 kg bungee jumper. The massless bungee cord is normally 25 m long and acts just like a spring when stretched beyond that length. The jumper reaches his lowest point 42.9 m below the bridge

OpenStudy (kkutie7):

k is supposed to be 160N/m but i dont see how

OpenStudy (amistre64):

F = -km is our formula for a spring konstant

OpenStudy (aum):

F = -k * x x = 42.9 - 25 = 17.9 m F = mg = 61 * 9.8 N = 597.8 -597.8 = -k * 17.9 k = ?

OpenStudy (kkutie7):

I did that and I got 33.39, but I was given the answers as a guide and the answer is supposed to be 160...

OpenStudy (amistre64):

can you post a pic of the guide?

OpenStudy (kkutie7):

sure but its nothing but the answer

OpenStudy (amistre64):

not much of a guide then .... pic of the problem and the guide?

OpenStudy (kkutie7):

ok

OpenStudy (amistre64):

does the initial force matter? or velocity?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

falling 25 meters builds up steam right?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

converting to say kinetic energy may prove useful, just a thought

OpenStudy (kkutie7):

I working on energy conservation right now. \[W_{NC}+U_{i}+K_{i}=U_{f}+K_{f}\]

OpenStudy (aum):

\[ \frac 12 mu^2 - mg\Delta h = \frac 12 kx^2 \]

OpenStudy (amistre64):

im not use to those formulas, but im pretty sure this isnt just a simple spring stretch i might be able to calculate the acceleration involved in order to back track it

OpenStudy (amistre64):

or aum seems to be better equiped formulaicly :)

OpenStudy (aum):

Find the downward velocity 'u' when h = 25m delta h = x = 17.9 m m = 61 kg

OpenStudy (kkutie7):

so wait for that formula I would plug in 17.9 for both x and delta h?

OpenStudy (aum):

Oh, forget the velocity. mgh = 1/2 * k * x^2

OpenStudy (aum):

h = 42.9 m x = 17.9 m

OpenStudy (aum):

mgh is the difference in potential energy when he is on the bridge and when he is at the lowest point of the bungee jump. This lost potential energy is stored in the elastic energy of the bungee cord which is 1/2 * k * x^2 where x is the amount stretched. It does give 160.08 N / m

OpenStudy (kkutie7):

so like this then \[(61)(9.8)(42.9)=\frac{1}{2}k(17.9)^{2}\]

OpenStudy (aum):

\[ \int kxdx = \frac 12 kx^2 + c \]

OpenStudy (kkutie7):

\[k=\frac{2((61)(9.8)(42.9))}{17.9^{2}}=160.08\]

OpenStudy (aum):

N / m

OpenStudy (kkutie7):

thank you =)

OpenStudy (aum):

You are welcome.

OpenStudy (amistre64):

-4.9 t^2 + 25 = 0, when t = 2.26 velocity is 9.8*2.26 = 22.15 total energy at start of spring is therefore: 61/2 * (22.15)^2 = 14964 give or take that disipates in potential energy over 17.9 meters

OpenStudy (amistre64):

yall got it :)

OpenStudy (kkutie7):

for the second part of the question how would I find the magnitude of the acceleration I know that the acceleration is in the y direction but how do I find the magnitude?

OpenStudy (aum):

(kx - mg) = ma a = k/m * x - g = 160.08 / 61 * 17.9 - 9.8 = 46.97 - 9.8 = 37.17 m / s^2

OpenStudy (aum):

Do you have the answer for part b) ?

OpenStudy (kkutie7):

37.2m/s^2 perfect! =)

OpenStudy (aum):

Alright :)

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