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OpenStudy (astrophysics):

Taylor series and radius of convergence.

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

\[f(x)=\sqrt{x},~~~a = 16\]

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

I'm not sure how to plug it into Taylor series, \[f(x) = f(a)+f'(a)(x-a)+\frac{ f''(a) }{ 2! }(x-a)^2+...+\frac{ f^n(a) }{ n! }(x-a)^n\] \[= 4+\frac{ 1 }{ 2 \times 4 }(x-16)-\frac{ 1 }{ 2 \times 2 \times 4^3 \times 2! }(x-16)^2+\frac{ 3 }{ 2 \times 2 \times 2 \times 4^5 \times 3! }(x-16)^3...\]

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

I don't know what it looks like as a series

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

\[f(x) = \sqrt{x},~~~a=16 \implies f(16) = \sqrt{16}=4\] \[f'(x) = \frac{ 1 }{ 2x^{1/2} }~~~f'(16) = \frac{ 1 }{ 2 \times 4 }\] \[f''(x) = - \frac{ 1 }{ 2 \times 2x^{3/2} }~~~f'''(16) = -\frac{ 1 }{ 2 \times 2 \times 4^3 }\] \[f ''' (x) = \frac{ 3 }{ 2 \times 2 \times 2x^{5/2} }~~~f'''(16) = \frac{ 3 }{ 2 \times 2 \times 2 \times 4^5 }\]

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

@amistre64

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

Not really sure, where to go from here.

OpenStudy (amistre64):

theres a pattern that the derivatives take

OpenStudy (amistre64):

\[\frac{1}{2^0}x^{1/2},\frac{1.1}{2^1}x^{-1/2},-\frac{1.1.1}{2^2}x^{-3/2},\frac{1.1.1.3}{2^3}x^{-5/2},-\frac{1.1.1.3.5}{2^4}x^{-7/2}\]

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

\[\frac{ 1 }{ 4^{2n-1} }(x-16)^n\] this is the pattern right?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

x-4

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

(x-a) so 16 no?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

there seems to be some odd combinatorial from the wolf

OpenStudy (amistre64):

pfft, thought i read x=4 :)

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

Ah lol

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

So would that just be the taylor series, this one is a bit odd

OpenStudy (amistre64):

its a bit odd yes, but i dont think the wolf likes your solution

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

Mhm yeah I don't think it's complete, we need the other numbers

OpenStudy (amistre64):

\[\sum_{n=0}^{\infty}\frac{f^{(n)}(a)}{n!}(x-a)^n\]

OpenStudy (amistre64):

so the key is in finding a suitable sequence of coefficients that are equal to the derivatives .. not that you dint know that already

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

Yeah, I see, but I still feel as if I'm missing something haha

OpenStudy (amistre64):

x^(1/2) 1/2^1 x^(-1/2) -1/2^2 x^(-3/2) 3/2^3 x^(-5/2) -3.5/2^4 x^(-7/2) -3.5.7/2^4 x^(-7/2) (-1)^n prod(2n+1) ---------------- 2^n 4^((2n+1)/2) after some point, we get to something like this ... not that ive adjusted it for n or anything

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

Mhm yeah I think I see what's going on now. Now for the radius of convergence, I'll just use ratio test..tedious process

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

Oh wait, so what you did was use binomial coefficients?

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

Which gives us the other numbers

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

That would fill in the confusing gap

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

\[f(x) = \sum_{n=0}^{\infty} \frac{ 1/2! }{ n!(1/2-n)! }\frac{ 1 }{ 4^{2n-1} }(x-16)^n\]

OpenStudy (amistre64):

(-1)^n prod(2n+1) ---------------- 2^n 4^((2n+1)/2) when n starts at 2

OpenStudy (amistre64):

water main busted in the front yard ..

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

Haha, well is what I said look right?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

i havent tried playing that much if any with fractional binomials so i cant say for sure, but thats the way the wolf writes it

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

Link please!

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

Ah, nice, thanks for all your help amistre :)!

OpenStudy (amistre64):

http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=taylor+series+at+x%3D16+for++sqrt%28x%29 for more specific

OpenStudy (amistre64):

youre welcome

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

Sweet, it also converges at radius 16

OpenStudy (amistre64):

:) the wolf is pretty smart :)

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

I'd say so, hopefully it doesn't take over the world one day...yikes, it did that series in seconds while I've been trying to figure it out for hours. I really DON'T like this section, it's very frustrating.

OpenStudy (amistre64):

its just a hard progression, relies on some serious other prenamed stuff good luck

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

Thanks again amirstre

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