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OpenStudy (anonymous):

ln|-2| is a # or DNE? integral from -inf to 0 of 1/(3x-2) dx

OpenStudy (amistre64):

well, the absolute value bars makes everything a positive value, except 0

OpenStudy (amistre64):

consider the derivaitve of ln(3x-2)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

3(1/3x-2)

OpenStudy (amistre64):

yep, and we are missing a 3 so lets divide it off 1/3 ln(3x-2) is our basic function that was derived

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes i got that far, 1/3 times the limit as t approaches negative inf of the integral of t to 0 of ln|3x-2|

OpenStudy (amistre64):

ln(x) doesnt converge ... its monotonic increasing

OpenStudy (anonymous):

but when i evaluate it. [ ln|3(0)-2) - ln|3t-2| ]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i would get [ln|-2| - 0 ]

OpenStudy (amistre64):

yeah, and ln(inf) = inf

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ln|-inf| being zero correct?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

no, ln(1) = 0

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i thought as ln approches negative inf it approches 0 from the right

OpenStudy (anonymous):

or rather ln(x) . as x approches neg inf ln approches 0

OpenStudy (amistre64):

ln|-inf| = ln|inf| does not approach zero |dw:1413770813985:dw| the derivative tells us that much ... its always positive, and never zero

OpenStudy (freckles):

It kinda sounds like you are getting ln's inverse confused with ln

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ohhh yes you are right

OpenStudy (anonymous):

on the graph x can never be zero thats why i kept thinking it DNE

OpenStudy (amistre64):

notice that we are working with ln|x| which is symmetric about the y axis

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@freckles you mean e^x?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

thank you guys though

OpenStudy (amistre64):

http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=y+%3D+ln%7Cx%7C

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so for the record abs(-inf) => +inf

OpenStudy (amistre64):

|a| = |-a| so the limits as a to inf is equal to the limits as a to -inf .... which is just inf

OpenStudy (amistre64):

its bad form to say inf is a number .... but yeah, you can mentally address it like that

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok then, so my final answer would be -inf since i am -ln|3t-2| t approaching -inf

OpenStudy (amistre64):

1/3 (ln(2) - |inf|) looks that way to me or DNE depending on how your material defines it

OpenStudy (anonymous):

thank you

OpenStudy (amistre64):

youre welcome :) good luck

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