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OpenStudy (anonymous):

is an imaginary number a real number always sometimes or never true?

OpenStudy (dumbcow):

is an apple a orange always, sometimes, or never true ? :)

OpenStudy (dumbcow):

are you not familiar with phrase ... " trying to compare apples with oranges"

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yeah I understand it now

OpenStudy (dumbcow):

my point is that they are opposites so by definition they cannot be same thing

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

hmm 0i is a bit annoying imaginary number

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

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ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

im not so sure, but the real and imaginary numbers seem to meet at 0

OpenStudy (turingtest):

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OpenStudy (turingtest):

real numbers are complex numbers with an imaginary part equal to zero so are complex numbers real?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

but the question is about sometimes/always/never right ?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

by definition, it seems 0 falls in both imaginary and real numbers so im inclining more towards `sometimes`

OpenStudy (turingtest):

yeah, and from the venn diagram it should be clear which of those fits

OpenStudy (turingtest):

look, based on the diagram I drew, is 1 a complex number?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

yes but how is that related to the original question ?

OpenStudy (turingtest):

well if by "imaginary number" they mean "complex number", then 1 is an example of an imaginary number that is part of the set of real numbers

OpenStudy (turingtest):

though i'm not positive they mean that imaginary=complex, the terminology seems a bit vague

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

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OpenStudy (turingtest):

hm that's not my understanding...

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

imaginary numbers are the ones without a real part

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

like : 0 + bi

OpenStudy (turingtest):

Ah, my understanding of terminology has failed me again :P You are right, ganshie

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

im just quickly going thru wolfram haha!

OpenStudy (turingtest):

your source is better than mine: http://www.mathsisfun.com/sets/number-types.html

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

@TuringTest your terminology looks more standard. Also wolfram agrees with it as the question stands.. http://mathworld.wolfram.com/ImaginaryNumber.html

myininaya (myininaya):

\[\mathbb{R}=\left\{ a+bi| b \neq 0 \right\} \\ \text{ So } 0 \in R \\ \text{ Imaginary }=\left\{ a+bi |a =0 \right\}\\ \text{ But I don't I have seen anybody defined the imaginary numbers with } b \neq 0 \\ \text{ So }0i=0 \in \text{Imaginary }\]

myininaya (myininaya):

So I think I agree with @ganeshie8 as well

OpenStudy (dumbcow):

lets not over complicate this guys i assume imaginary is not same as complex i admit i didn't consider 0 as being imaginary :{

myininaya (myininaya):

oops I made an error up there b=0

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Descartes added some confusions to terminology it seems

OpenStudy (turingtest):

lol but the wolfram link does seem to cast some doubt on the meaning of imaginary number. at this point I am inclined to go with the simple interpretation as well and go with ganeshie's first answet

OpenStudy (turingtest):

answer why can i not see the "post" button when i write more than 3 lines? anyone else seeing this?

myininaya (myininaya):

http://mathforum.org/library/drmath/view/65170.html This one guy also says 0 is an imaginary number

OpenStudy (turingtest):

Clearly the author of this question thought the matter was more simple than it is.

myininaya (myininaya):

Well I don't think I would have thought of the 0i thing without @ganeshie8 bringing that up.

myininaya (myininaya):

So I probably would have thought the question was more simple then.

OpenStudy (turingtest):

if we assume imaginary to be complex, then the answer is "sometimes" if we assume 0 is imaginary, the answer is "sometimes" if we define imaginary as having a non-zero imaginary part and zero real, it is "never"

myininaya (myininaya):

I think we need to know how Emily's math teacher defined the real numbers and imaginary numbers in class.

OpenStudy (turingtest):

^agreed

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