For which operations is the set -1,0,1 closed? Choose all answers that are correct A: addition B: division C: multiplication D: subtraction
You can select any number from that set and by adding, them if you get a number which is there in set too, you will say for Addition, the set is closed.. :)
\(1 + 1 = ??\)
@Passion567 first of all,do you know what is the meaning of closed interval ?
no
it means that when you apply any mathematical property on numbers,if the answer would come only and only -1,0,1 ,then we can say that the result(answer) is closed in the interval
understood? @Passion567
somewhat
so for option A) if you add,then you will get :- -1+0=-1 1+0=1 -1+1=0 Can we say that option A is closed in the set?
could you get that ? @Passion567
no i have no clue what this is i do homeschool and they dont teach us about it they just give us test and make us take them
@mayankdevnani you need to check it once again, If I will do \(1+1\), then result will not be in the given interval, sorry, but I am here in doubt.. :(
well, @Passion567 see the result from option A is closed because the results are as follows:--1,0,1 and this result is include in the set which is given in the question. So,option A is correct
likewise,check all the other options
now @waterineyes you tried option D) subtraction See :- -1-(0)=-1---------->CLOSED 1-(0)=1------------->CLOSED -1-(1)=-2------------>OPEN(NOT CLOSED)
hope you understand. @Passion567 @waterineyes
ok thank you
so option D is not our answer
so option D is not our answer :)
WELCOME :) @Passion567
In my knowledge, option A ie addition is not correct one.. :)
why ???
ok why
option A satisfies all the conditions
I mean can't we add 1 with 1 itself?
why ???? only +1 and -1 is given in the question ?
You can try one number only once
1 and 1 both are in the set.. :)
yeah...you are right !!!
but I am still in doubt.. :P
@Passion567 @waterineyes is right We have to include all the numbers
no,i got it @waterineyes
Wait, I will give one other link which will contradict me and prove you are right, and answer is too given by jimthompson there.. :P
http://www.algebra.com/algebra/homework/Number-Line/Number-Line.faq.question.160073.html
So, now we are both equal.. Be happy.. :P
@ganeshie8
lolz.. @waterineyes
@ikram002p
Yeah, surely we need experts' advice here.. :) I have got rusty on set related things.. :)
:P
It seems like you have read it now somewhere and then you have come here.. :P
i get it !!! Think @waterineyes \[\large \bf [-1,0,1]\]
Okay, I am thinking.. @mayankdevnani
if we choose 1 from the set,now there are two numbers remaining i.e -1 and 0. That's why,we can't add 1+1 ???
yes?? I am in doubt.. :)
you have to select two numbers from the set, why can't I choose one number twice?
for part A 1+1=2 for B 1/0 = :O for D -1-1=-2 so if i were u i would only chose C O.O
yippie, Ikram is on my side.. :P
lolzz
but JIMTHOMPSON
he is on my SIDE
:)
Sorry talk about online members.. :P
hmmm im on my side too ^_^
GREAT ^^^
That does not matter here.. :P
i would go with A, B, C lets conduct a poll maybe :)
B also??
`poll` Whow !!!!
Sorry, but you are alone here @ganeshie8 :P
@ganeshie8 you can't go with option B because 1/0=undefined which is open in the interval
One thing I am sure about, ganesh has proven that also as wrong.. I was sure about Division.. What man.!! :P
thats precicely the reason we can go with it, 1/0 is not defined in any of the number sets yet the real numbers are closed under division and multiplication right ?
since 1/0 is not defined, we don't bother about it when considering closure
ganesh R* is closed :) R itself nope
No ganesh.. :)
then il need updates :) whats R* ikram ?
R*=R-{0}
@ganeshie8 think that :- the set is closed it means that only -1,0,1 (integral values) are considered. 1/0=undefined and UNDEFINED is not in this particular set !!!
please think over this
*UNDEFINED is not considered in this set
only under division R is not closed hmm but this is also an axiom thingy :P some books dont mention that so its ok sometimes to say R is closed on division
no,we can't say that UNDEFINED is closed because its UNDERSTOOD or apply common sense,how can we arrange UNDEFINED ??
@ikram002p
okay tjat makes sense, so real numbers are not closed under division because 1/0 is undefined ?
If i would say that :- arrange planets in the market for market sale Now can you arrange real planets for MARKET SALE
hehe yeah was gonna say about never heard of subtraction or division xD but i thought explaining it like this more better :P
Ganeshie - Don't feel discouraged, that ''guy'' is a doctor for a reason. Hehe.
yeah i am still with him :) just trying to manage the strong opposition here haha!
i think :- \[\large \bf ({- \infty,+ \infty})\] i think @real numbers can be arranged in this set,
don't you think about that ? @ganeshie8 @ikram002p
well i like to be simple xD i dont wanna show up hehe so IMHO its only C , otherwise hmm i dont wanna comment :P
integers are closed under division makes sense because 1/3 is defined yet not an integer however 1/0 itself is undefined, so real numbers are closed under division makes more sense to me..
but i believe u more @ikram002p so lets kick option B
yeah,,,option C would definitely satisfies. option C is one of the answers
ganesh integer is not closed under division or multiplication this is what u trying to say right ?
integers are closed under multiplication right ?
nope
ugh, let me think
there is no such a^-1 in N for all a in N such that aa^-1=1 :O
@ikram002p and @ganeshie8 scroll up and see those comments from which the doubt has occur ? and please be patient while you read all the comments and if you read all that comments,then please reply !!!
please TAKE YOUR TIME !!!
*while you are reading
how is multiplcation even related to inverse ?
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