Tino conducted a survey of all the eighth graders in his school for his math project.He asked each student how much he or she spent on school supplies at the beginning of the year (rounded to the nearest dollar) he also caculated the average amount spent and found it to be $15.50 unfortunately,it rained on the day he brought the graph to turn it in,and the last bar got smudged.What is the height of the smudged are?
go to this link and and scroll down youll see the graph
@IMStuck
@amistre64
take a weighted average
or ... sum xP(x) is the same thing
did you find the problem on the link @amistre64
\[\frac{a\alpha+b\beta+c\gamma+d\delta+...+k\kappa}{a+b+c+d+...+k}\]
i found it, we need to take a weighted average
um im in 8th grade
can i tell you what my teacher gave me
for an equation @amistre64
only if its sensible ...
total spent + 20x -------------- 18(12)=216 20(13)=260 number of kids + x
ideally, if we add up all the amounts that each kid gave, and divide by how many kids gave an answer .... we have an average. 18 kids gave 12: 12+12+12+12+12+ ... or 18(12) 20 kids gave 13: 13+13+13+ .. or simply 13(20) 21 kids gave 14: 14(21) see how its working?
yes thats what he wanted us to do but i dont see how its working @amistre64
\[\frac{18(13)+ 20(14)+ 21(15)+ 22(16)+ 18(17)+ 16(18)+ 8(19)+ 10(20)+ x(21)}{18+20+21+22+18+16+8+10+x}\\ =15.50\]
i mis saw something in there trying to flip between pages
but thats the basic premise.
oh, we start at 12, not 13
\[\frac{18(12)+ 20(13)+ 21(14)+ 22(15)+ 18(16)+ 16(17)+ 8(18)+ 10(19)+ x(20)}{18+20+21+22+18+16+8+10+x}\] simplify that for me
this might take awhile @amistre64
hold on
while your pondering it ... do you agree that an average is simply the sum of the number of items, divided by how many items there are?
yes
then thats really all we are doing here. but being smarter about it 18 kids gave $12 if we add 12 to itself 18 times ... thats the definition of multiplication: 18(12) the top part is just summing up all the money that was given by taking the frequency of each dollar amount instead of adding them up one by one
the bottom is therefore how many kids gave in the first place ... 18 gave this 20 gave that 21 gave those 22 gave something else .... the sum of the number of kids is the bottom
2024x ------- = 15. 133z
@amistre64
1994 + 20x ----------- = 15.50 133 + x solve for x
how did you get 1994
i got 2024
did i add wrong
http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=18%2812%29%2B+20%2813%29%2B+21%2814%29%2B+22%2815%29%2B+18%2816%29%2B+16%2817%29%2B+8%2818%29%2B+10%2819%29 i made the wolf do the calcualtions for me
oh k
there was not way i was going to chk that by hand :)
i put it in the caculator and got 2014
you might need new batteries
so lets assume we did this right: 18(12)+ 20(13)+ 21(14)+ 22(15)+ 18(16)+ 16(17)+ 8(18)+ 10(19) + 20x 1994 + 20x on top and 18+20+21+22+18+16+8+10 + x 133 + x on the bottom
its 2,014 i used the google caculator but i didnt add the ask just 20
but its 2014x
using m for the mean 1994 + 20x = m(133+x) 1994 + 20x = 133m + mx 20x - mx = 133m - 1994 x(20 - m) = 133m - 1994 133m - 1994 x = ------------ 20 - m
you can add unlike terms ... 20x is not able to be added for starters. it has to be worked in seperately
if you want to use your findings, feel free ....
1994 + 20x ----------- = 15.50 133 + x
yep .... i used m for a simpler run thru
im confused on wht to do
using m for the mean 1994 + 20x = m(133+x) 1994 + 20x = 133m + mx 20x - mx = 133m - 1994 x(20 - m) = 133m - 1994 133m - 1994 x = ------------ 20 - m
oh ok
you wnat me to solve
@amistre64
yes, i want you to solve
do i have to use the m
@amistre64
what does m equal in this case? i defined it to make my life simpler
mean i was just asking i thought i could use x
x is what is not known :) m is known, just easier for me to work with when moving things about
oh ok
15.0
@amistre64
x = 15 is what i get as well
so that was it
with any luck yes :) i would not have attempted that by hand, which is why i trust the wolf on it
oh thank you finally finished
thank you so much @amistre64
youre welcome :)
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