Determine the roots (zeros) of x^4-3x^3+5x^2-27x-36 = 0 i got one of the zeros from the calculator and it was -1 from that i used synthetic division to get my new equation : x^3-4x^2+9x-36. now i dont know how to get the rest of my zeros. i need help!
hint: factor out x^2 from the first two terms, and 9 from the second two terms.
hmmm have you covered the "rational root test" yet?
or ... are you supposed to get them from their graph?
no, my test is tomorrow. this is like a review packet and that is the exact question. @jdoe0001 and @ertdre i did i got (x^2+9) (x-4) that would give me one of my other answers being 4, right? i dont know where to go from there.
so... how are you supposed to find the roots then? what are you meant to use to get them?
or what are you expected to use to get them ?
@jdoe0001 have you not unlocked human calculator at least??
well im supposed to use synthetic division to get one of the zeros and from the new equation i am supposed to get the rest of my zeros
How did you get that polynomial when you assumed one of the zeros was x=-1
I'm not getting that polynomial (and I'm not getting a remainder 0)
which means x=-1 wasn't a zero
unless I have done some mistake
i got it by doing synthetic division. @myininaya
-1| 4 -3 5 -27 -36 | -4 7 -12 39 ------------------------- 4 -7 12 -39 | 3 not remainder 0 so x=-1 is not a zero
you forgot the 1
Oh the coefficent of x^4 is 1 not 4
yes maam the 4 is the degree
-1| 1 -3 5 -27 -36 | -1 4 - 9 36 - -------------------- 1 -4 9 -36 |0 okay x=-1 does work
yeah i thought there was a 4 in front also
Well you already found the other zeros by factoring that resulting polynomial
\[x^3-4x^2+9x-36=0 \\x^2(x-4)+9(x-4)=0 \\ (x-4)(x^2+9)=0 \\ x-4=0 \text{ when } x=?_1 \\ x^2+9=0 \text{ when } x=\pm ?_2\]
i get everything untill the last line. i dont know how you did that
how I got x^2+9?
I didn't get that You actually did
well and then I also got it after I factored but you got x^2+9 as a factor first
Do you mean do hot you solve x^2+9=0 for x?
i mean your answer to x^2+9
\[x^2+9=0 \\ x^2=-9 \] Now you just take the square root of both sides
i am officially confused
would it be 3i
you would have two solutions
+ or - 3i
heheh officially =) so you're "unofficially" doing ok then ? =)
okay i got it thank you! @myininaya & hah nope now i am officially doing okay because i got exactly what i needed. @jdoe0001
so the part that was confusing was just solving the x^2+9=0 thing?
Or was it why I set x^2+9=0
Or was it where x^2+9 came from?
it was the solving x^2+9=0 part. i thoight that i was supposed to factor it. i had everything exept that part. i was trying to factor but i saw no way to factor so i was confused
\[x^4-4x^3+5x^2-27x-36=0 \\ (x+1)(x-4)(x^2+9)=0\]
you can factor x^2+9
\[(x-3i)(x+3i)\]
\[x^2+a^2 =(x-ai)(x+ai)\]
i never thought about that though.
\[(x-ai)(x+ai)=x^2+xai-aix-a^2i^2 \\ =x^2+0-a^2(-1) \\ =x^2-a^2(-1) \\=x^2+a^2\]
You don't have to factor x^2+9 to find the zeros of x^2+9 though
yeah i know that now.
\[x^2+a^2=0 \\ x^2=-a^2 \\ \sqrt{x^2}=\sqrt{-a^2} \\ |x|=\sqrt{-a^2} \\ x=\pm \sqrt{-a^2} \\ x= \pm i \sqrt{a^2} \\x=\pm ai\]
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