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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Suppose f '' is continuous on (-infinity, infinity). If f '(-1) = 0 and f ''(-1) = -1,what can you say about f ? a)At x = -1, f has a local maximum. b)At x = -1, f has a local minimum. c) At x = -1, f has neither a maximum nor a minimum. d)More information is needed to determine if f has a maximum or minimum at x = -1. If f '(4) = 0 and f ''(4) = 0,what can you say about f ? a)At x = 4, f has a local maximum. b)At x = 4, f has a local minimum. c)At x = 4, f has neither a maximum nor a minimum. d)More information is needed to determine if f has a maximum or minimum at x = 4.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

If f '(-1) = 0 and f ''(-1) = -1 since f'' is negative, f' is decreasing, it is also zero at x=-1, so for x<-1 it must be positive and for x?-1 f' is negative f'(-1)=0 so f has an extreme point there and hence for x<-1 f must be increasing and for x?-1 f must be negative so that is a maximum b)At x = -1, f has a local minimum.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_derivative_test so d)More information is needed to determine if f has a maximum or minimum at x = 4.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

thank you for your help. on WebAssign, the first answer was marked wrong. Can we go through your explanation again?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Oh, sorry that was a typo, I copied the wrong anser it is d)More information is needed to determine if f has a maximum or minimum at x = 4. The funtion is increasing, then reaches a maximum, then decreases sorry about that

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh that was the second question and D was right. Thank you again for that one! I'm talking about the f'(-1)=0 and f''(-1)=-1 x=-1 is a minimum

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ah, didn properly copy the answer, a)At x = 4, f has a local maximum.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

the previous answer was still on the clipboard

OpenStudy (anonymous):

The funtion is increasing, then reaches a maximum, then decreases sorry about that so A

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ah ok. well thanks again for the help. I was stumped on these two questions. I was able to do the rest but i've spent a while not understanding this.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Do you get it now?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yeah i have the gist of it

OpenStudy (anonymous):

the derivative gives whether a function is increasing (when positive) or decraesing (when negative) at an extremum of f it changes sign but if f' is also zero, it may or may not change sign and you need higher derivatives to see what is going on

OpenStudy (anonymous):

since f'' is negative then it's concave down yes? so the frown means x=-1 is a local max

OpenStudy (anonymous):

for f

OpenStudy (anonymous):

if f'' is negative it means that f' is decreasing and zero so before the extremum first postitive then negative so f is at a maximum (first increasing then decreasing)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ah ok. I went over it again and I can officially say I understand it now. Thank you.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

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