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OpenStudy (softballgirl372015):

Please help!! I don't know where my mistake is

OpenStudy (softballgirl372015):

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[x^3+y^3=18xy\] is that the start?

OpenStudy (softballgirl372015):

Yup!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

and you need to find \(y'\) by implicit diff right?

OpenStudy (softballgirl372015):

Yeah.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

the mistake was in the first line when you take the derivative on the right, you get \[18(xy'+x)\] like you wrote, but on the left you should get \[3x^2+3y^2y'\]

OpenStudy (softballgirl372015):

Oh. okay. Why is there a y prime there though?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

lets go slow

OpenStudy (anonymous):

you have an equation \[x^3+y^3=18xy\] which is some curve and may not represent a function (may not pass the vertical line test) but it does locally so you are thinking that \(y\) is a function of \(x\) even though you do not know it explicitly (hence implicit diff) so lets call \(y=f(x)\) and rewrite this as \[x^3+f^3(x)=18xf(x)\]

OpenStudy (softballgirl372015):

Okay.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

when you take the derivative on the right, you need the product rule \[18f(x)+18xf'(x)\] more easily written as \[18(y+xy')\] as you wrote

OpenStudy (anonymous):

on the left, you need the chain rule you get \[3x^2+3f^2(x)f'(x)\] more easily written as \[3x^2+3y^2y'\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

just like if you had \[x^3+\sin^3(x)\] the derivative would be \[3x^2+3\sin^2(x)\cos(x)\]

OpenStudy (softballgirl372015):

Okay. I was a little confused, but the last post cleared up my confusion.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

hope so then it is algebra from there on in to isolate \(y'\) once you have \[3x^2+3y^2y'=18xy'+18y\]

OpenStudy (softballgirl372015):

Okay. So when I solve problems with implicit diff, will there always be a y prime if I am finding the derivative of a term that has a y variable in it?

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