sin(sec^-1(x+3/4)) help, I don't even know where to start with this one.
ugliness for sure draw a triangle first
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ok did the triangle... but bec its sec, wasnt sure how to label it
find the third side via pythagoras
thinking real basic as secant equals hypotenuse over adjacent" that is how i labelled it
i'm sure you meant (x+3)/4 yes?
but before we go further, is it \[x+\frac{3}{4}\] or is it \[\frac{x+3}{4}\]
the second one
what @xxferrocixx said if it is the second then label differently
put the hypotenuse as \(x+3\) and the adjacent as \(4\)
draw tool is no longer working for me, but i assume you get the idea
did you ever get help with that last problem btw? the one where you had to rotate about x = -1?
ok so for the other side I got: \[\sqrt{x ^{2}+6x+7}\]
I did I struggled with it... but I guess with time I will become more confident with this stuff
if that is \[\sqrt{(x+3)^2-4^2}\]then yes
hmm but i think it is not
oops let me do it over
should be \[\sqrt{x^2+6x-7}\] i think you subtracted wrong and that is not the final answer in any case, you have to put that over the hypotenuse
thats the answer? that simple?
wow i guess it is that simple
It is a little more complicated than that (just a little)
that is not the answer, that is the "opposite" side the answer for \[\sin\left(\sec^{-1}(\frac{x+3}{4})\right)\]would be \[\frac{\sqrt{x^2+6x-7}}{x+3}\] as in "opposite over hypotenuse"
the most complicated part is writing it!
what do you get if you plug in -10 for x
i give up what?
not the answer if you use the function
you need \[\frac{\sqrt{x^2+6x-7}}{|x+3|}\]
the range of the arcsec is between 0 and pi and the sin on 0 to pi is positive
ooh jeez it is always something
OK ... well thank you satellite, for your help, according to the software, the answer you helped me with is right
if you want, repost the last problem we can do it
@Zarkon yeah i see my mistake too if i did it the real way the denominator would be \[\sqrt{(x+3)^2}\]
@itsmecaro tell the software people you found a mistake (even though it was @Zarkon that found it) maybe they will offer you a reward
Like one of those Christmas tree Debbie cakes?
hahaha a reward??? right they will just blow me off
i was thinking more along the lines of unused halloween kit kats
ewwww
What? They are unused?
saw someone returning a whole bag to target earlier today they said they have to throw them out
i dont know. ive heard some creepy things where they inject stuff in the chocolates
it's called fat`
You can solve this using trig identities. sin (arcsec((x+3)/4)) Let y = arcsec (x+3)/4 sec y = (x+3)/4 cosy = 4/(x+3) Trig identity: sin^2(y) + cos^2(y) = 1 sin^2(y) = 1 - cos^2(y) sin (y) = + - sqrt( 1 - cos^2(y)) sin(y) = + - sqrt[1 - (4/(x+3))^2]
you don't get a \(\pm\) because \(\sin(y)\ge0\) (because \(0\le y\le \pi\))
was that given in the problem , or you derived that
i guess because the range of arcsec is positive
the range of the arcsec(x) is \([0,\pi/2)\cup(\pi/2,\pi]\)
ok and sine of that is positive.
yes
that makes sense. how did you know that satellite needed an absolute value. its not obvious with the 'triangle' method
if you draw a triangle, i mean
because of the domains and ranges of arcsec(x) and sin(x)
you can also get it from the triangle...which satellite73 mentions
it seems to work algebraically though. also the hypotenuse is x+3, so that should always be positive, so i guess | x + 3 | makes sense. sin (arcsec((x+3)/4)) Let y = arcsec (x+3)/4 sec y = (x+3)/4 cosy = 4/(x+3) Trig identity: sin^2(y) + cos^2(y) = 1 sin^2(y) = 1 - cos^2(y) sin (y) = + sqrt( 1 - cos^2(y)) sin(y) = + sqrt[1 - (4/(x+3))^2] sin(y) = sqrt[ (x+3)^2 - 4^2 ) / (x+3)^2] sin(y) = sqrt( x^2 + 6x -7 ) / sqrt((x+3)^2) sin(y) = sqrt(x^2 + 6x -7) / |x+3|
satellite says "yeah i see my mistake too if i did it the real way the denominator would be sqrt((x+3)^2) " I can only imagine satellite meant by the 'real' way, using the trig identities.
since you guys are math genius' can u help me out with this next one?
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