Please help me Find the following limits: 1. limit (as x approaches infinity) :(sqrt(2(x^2)+x)-sqrt(2)x) 2. lim (as x approaches infinity) : 10^9(sqrt(2(x^2)+x) - sqrt(2)x) 3. lim(as x approaches neg infinity) : (sqrt(2(x^2) +3))/x
have you tried rationalizing the numerator for #1 ?
yes and then i got super lost
\[\begin{align} \lim\limits_{x\to\infty} \sqrt{2x^2+x} - \sqrt{2}x \end{align}\]
is that the first limit ?
yes
\[\begin{align} \lim\limits_{x\to\infty} \sqrt{2x^2+x} - \sqrt{2}x & = \lim\limits_{x\to\infty} \sqrt{2x^2+x} - \sqrt{2}x\times\dfrac{ \sqrt{2x^2+x} + \sqrt{2}x}{\sqrt{2x^2+x} + \sqrt{2}x}\\~\\ & = \lim\limits_{x\to\infty} \dfrac{\left(\sqrt{2x^2+x}\right)^2 - \left(\sqrt{2}x\right)^2}{\sqrt{2x^2+x} + \sqrt{2}x}\\~\\ & = \lim\limits_{x\to\infty} \dfrac{x}{\sqrt{2x^2+x} + \sqrt{2}x}\\~\\ \end{align}\]
next divide top and bottom by x
so 1/((sqrt(2x^2+x) /x) +sqrt (2)?
\[\begin{align} \lim\limits_{x\to\infty} \sqrt{2x^2+x} - \sqrt{2}x & = \lim\limits_{x\to\infty} \sqrt{2x^2+x} - \sqrt{2}x\times\dfrac{ \sqrt{2x^2+x} + \sqrt{2}x}{\sqrt{2x^2+x} + \sqrt{2}x}\\~\\ & = \lim\limits_{x\to\infty} \dfrac{\left(\sqrt{2x^2+x}\right)^2 - \left(\sqrt{2}x\right)^2}{\sqrt{2x^2+x} + \sqrt{2}x}\\~\\ & = \lim\limits_{x\to\infty} \dfrac{x}{\sqrt{2x^2+x} + \sqrt{2}x}\\~\\ & = \lim\limits_{x\to\infty} \dfrac{x \color{red}{/x}}{\sqrt{2x^2+x} \color{red}{/x} + \sqrt{2}x \color{red}{/x}}\\~\\ \end{align}\]
when u push that x inside radical, it becomes x^2
so sqrt (2x^4+x)?
\[\begin{align} \lim\limits_{x\to\infty} \sqrt{2x^2+x} - \sqrt{2}x & = \lim\limits_{x\to\infty} \sqrt{2x^2+x} - \sqrt{2}x\times\dfrac{ \sqrt{2x^2+x} + \sqrt{2}x}{\sqrt{2x^2+x} + \sqrt{2}x}\\~\\ & = \lim\limits_{x\to\infty} \dfrac{\left(\sqrt{2x^2+x}\right)^2 - \left(\sqrt{2}x\right)^2}{\sqrt{2x^2+x} + \sqrt{2}x}\\~\\ & = \lim\limits_{x\to\infty} \dfrac{x}{\sqrt{2x^2+x} + \sqrt{2}x}\\~\\ & = \lim\limits_{x\to\infty} \dfrac{x \color{red}{/x}}{\sqrt{2x^2+x} \color{red}{/x} + \sqrt{2}x \color{red}{/x}}\\~\\ & = \lim\limits_{x\to\infty} \dfrac{1}{\sqrt{2x^2\color{red}{/x^2}+x\color{red}{/x^2}} + \sqrt{2}} \end{align}\]
oh, ok,
so 1/(sqrt(2+1/x) + sqrt (2)?
\[\begin{align} \lim\limits_{x\to\infty} \sqrt{2x^2+x} - \sqrt{2}x & = \lim\limits_{x\to\infty} \sqrt{2x^2+x} - \sqrt{2}x\times\dfrac{ \sqrt{2x^2+x} + \sqrt{2}x}{\sqrt{2x^2+x} + \sqrt{2}x}\\~\\ & = \lim\limits_{x\to\infty} \dfrac{\left(\sqrt{2x^2+x}\right)^2 - \left(\sqrt{2}x\right)^2}{\sqrt{2x^2+x} + \sqrt{2}x}\\~\\ & = \lim\limits_{x\to\infty} \dfrac{x}{\sqrt{2x^2+x} + \sqrt{2}x}\\~\\ & = \lim\limits_{x\to\infty} \dfrac{x \color{red}{/x}}{\sqrt{2x^2+x} \color{red}{/x} + \sqrt{2}x \color{red}{/x}}\\~\\ & = \lim\limits_{x\to\infty} \dfrac{1}{\sqrt{2x^2\color{red}{/x^2}+x\color{red}{/x^2}} + \sqrt{2}} \\~\\ & = \lim\limits_{x\to\infty} \dfrac{1}{\sqrt{2+1/\color{red}{x}} + \sqrt{2}} \end{align}\]
yes take the limit now
as x -> infinity 1/x -> 0
\[\begin{align} \lim\limits_{x\to\infty} \sqrt{2x^2+x} - \sqrt{2}x & = \lim\limits_{x\to\infty} \sqrt{2x^2+x} - \sqrt{2}x\times\dfrac{ \sqrt{2x^2+x} + \sqrt{2}x}{\sqrt{2x^2+x} + \sqrt{2}x}\\~\\ & = \lim\limits_{x\to\infty} \dfrac{\left(\sqrt{2x^2+x}\right)^2 - \left(\sqrt{2}x\right)^2}{\sqrt{2x^2+x} + \sqrt{2}x}\\~\\ & = \lim\limits_{x\to\infty} \dfrac{x}{\sqrt{2x^2+x} + \sqrt{2}x}\\~\\ & = \lim\limits_{x\to\infty} \dfrac{x \color{red}{/x}}{\sqrt{2x^2+x} \color{red}{/x} + \sqrt{2}x \color{red}{/x}}\\~\\ & = \lim\limits_{x\to\infty} \dfrac{1}{\sqrt{2x^2\color{red}{/x^2}+x\color{red}{/x^2}} + \sqrt{2}} \\~\\ & = \lim\limits_{x\to\infty} \dfrac{1}{\sqrt{2+1/\color{red}{x}} + \sqrt{2}}\\~\\ & = \dfrac{1}{\sqrt{2+\color{red}{0}} + \sqrt{2}}\\~\\ \end{align}\]
simplify
so as x approaches infinity the limit would be going to 1/sqrt(2) right? Thanks so much!!
try again
in the bottom there are two radicals right
oh wait 1/(2sqrt(2)
yes!
Thanks that really helped me understand what Im trying to get to
for #2, simply multiply this by 10^9
so on the second one, when you add the 10^9 out in front wouldnt it just be 10^9(1/(ssqrt2) or am I not thinking about that correctly?
you're right, if the limit exists, : \[\large \lim\limits_{x\to } Cf(x) =C\lim\limits_{x\to } f(x) \]
great, and on the last one can't you just think that the top is approaching infinity and bottom is approaching neg infinity so the whole thing is approaching -infinity? Or am I way off?
\[ \lim\limits_{x\to\infty}10^9 \left( \sqrt{2x^2+x} - \sqrt{2}x\right) = 10^9 \lim\limits_{x\to\infty} \left( \sqrt{2x^2+x} - \sqrt{2}x\right) = 10^9 \left(\dfrac{1}{2\sqrt{2}}\right)\]
you have good intuition, but its tricky.. u need to work it using limit properties
you will be in problem if the denominator approaches inifnity at faster rate compared to numerator
then, the aggressive denominator pulls the entire fraction to 0 and the limit also will be 0
intuition is good, but it wont work always with limits
lets divide top and bottom by x and see what we get
Thats what i was just working on :) I got sqrt (2+ 3/x)
no wait, i was wrong.. lets first make a substitution
doesn't 3/x approach 0? and we are left with 2 or am i looking at that wrong?
lets turn negative infinity to positive infinity
ok
substitute x = -y as x-> -infinity, y -> infinity right ?
\[\begin{align} \lim\limits_{x\to-\infty} \dfrac{\sqrt{2x^2+3}}{x} &= \lim\limits_{y\to\infty} \dfrac{\sqrt{2(-y)^2+3}}{(-y)} \end{align}\]
are you happy with above ? (you will see why it is needed shortly)
\[\begin{align} \lim\limits_{x\to-\infty} \dfrac{\sqrt{2x^2+3}}{x} &= \lim\limits_{y\to\infty} \dfrac{\sqrt{2(-y)^2+3}}{(-y)} \\~\\ &= \lim\limits_{y\to\infty} \dfrac{\sqrt{2y^2+3}}{-y} \\~\\ \end{align}\]
So you can change the infinity by taking the opposite of the variable?
i have just substituted x by -y
everywhere
since x is going to -infinity, y has to go to +infinity right ?
\[\begin{align} \lim\limits_{x\to-\infty} \dfrac{\sqrt{2x^2+3}}{x} &= \lim\limits_{y\to\infty} \dfrac{\sqrt{2(-y)^2+3}}{(-y)} \\~\\ &= \lim\limits_{y\to\infty} \dfrac{\sqrt{2y^2+3}}{-y} \\~\\ &= \lim\limits_{y\to\infty} -\sqrt{2+3/y} \\~\\ \end{align}\]
take the limit now
as y -> infinity, 1/y -> 0 so u get : \[\begin{align} \lim\limits_{x\to-\infty} \dfrac{\sqrt{2x^2+3}}{x} &= \lim\limits_{y\to\infty} \dfrac{\sqrt{2(-y)^2+3}}{(-y)} \\~\\ &= \lim\limits_{y\to\infty} \dfrac{\sqrt{2y^2+3}}{-y} \\~\\ &= \lim\limits_{y\to\infty} -\sqrt{2+3/y} \\~\\ &= -\sqrt{2+0} \\~\\ \end{align}\]
simplify
so it is -sqrt 2?
yup!
u may use wolfram to double check ur answers in future http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=+lim%28as+x+approaches+neg+infinity%29+++++%28sqrt%282%28x%5E2%29+%2B3%29%29%2Fx
Thanks, so we added the negative because it was to negative infinity originally?
yes you can use that trick for evaluating limits at neg infinity
convert it to pos inifnity by using that substitution x = -y and work it
thank you!!!!!
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