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OpenStudy (anonymous):

xe^y=x-y

OpenStudy (anonymous):

xe^y=x-y e^y = (x-y)/x y = ln ((x-y)/x)

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

What do you have to do here?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

hello Professor @SolomonZelman :)

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

don't get fooled by the title... I'm not....

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

@awalton63 , can you give us more clear instructions?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Find dy/dx by implicit differentiation

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

I would do this: \(\large\color{black}{ xe^y=x-y}\) \(\large\color{black}{ e^y=\frac{\LARGE {x-y} }{\LARGE {x}}}\) \(\large\color{black}{\ln(e^y)=\ln(\frac{\LARGE {x-y} }{\LARGE {x}})}\) \(\large\color{black}{\ln(e^y)=\ln(x-y )-\ln(x)}\)

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

Now take out the y from the exponent, and you get \(\large\color{black}{y\ln(e)=\ln(x-y )-\ln(x)}\)

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

Then take the derivative.

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

let me know if you need more help, with a concept or with proving it. Ask any question about the problem. (Don't forget the chain rule for the y, since you are finding dy/dx)

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

@awalton , I would prefer you to post you work here, so that I can see the mistake if you have any.... okay?

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

You seem not to reply. Do you have any problems with the problem? :))

OpenStudy (ikram002p):

xe^y=x-y x(e^y)'+x'(e^y)=x'-y' xe^y+e^y=1-y'

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i originally was trying to isolate the y to one side which is where I ran into trouble and I came up with x-x=-y/e^y

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

Just derive it the way it is. \(\large\color{black}{y\ln(e) =\ln(x-y)-\ln(x) }\)

OpenStudy (ikram002p):

u can do that too :) but its better to use differentiate properties :) anyway all good :P

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

The derivative of ln(x) is 1/x. The proof \(\large\color{black}{x =\ln y }\) \(\large\color{black}{x =\log_e y }\) \(\large\color{black}{e^y =x }\) \(\large\color{black}{\frac{dy}{dx}e^y =1 }\) \(\large\color{black}{\frac{dy}{dx} =1/e^y }\) sub in x for e^y since you know that x=e^y \(\large\color{black}{\frac{dy}{dx} =1/x }\)

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

the ln(x-y) will be as follows: Apply the rule to derive "ln(x-y)" for the inner argument, the x-y, and by the chain rule, multiply times the derivative of (x-y) and another chain will apply to the derivative of y ....

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

and the derivative of yln(e), will be just ln(e) times dy/dx (dy/dx comes from the chain rule for y)

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

let me know if you need more assistance.

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