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OpenStudy (caozeyuan):

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OpenStudy (caozeyuan):

GIven that a triple integral can be expressed as\[\int\limits_{0}^{1}\int\limits_{0}^{1-x ^{2}}\int\limits_{0}^{1-x}f(x,y,z)dydzdx\]

OpenStudy (caozeyuan):

Change order of integration to make five equivalents of this integral

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So essentially your limits for your first integral are in terms of y. You can think of them as the bounds y = 0 and y = 1-x. Similarly for z and x. The bounds for z can be thought as z = 0 and z = 1-x^2 and x is bounded by 0 and 1. What I would suggest doing is seeing if you can rough sketch those boundaries and then try to figure out your different orders from there. Have you tried to sketch anything yet to see what's going on and to see what the boundaries for all your variables are?

OpenStudy (caozeyuan):

I have worked one out

OpenStudy (anonymous):

And which one is that?

OpenStudy (caozeyuan):

so I wrote that one possibility is\[\int\limits_{0}^{1}\int\limits_{1-y}^{0}\int\limits_{0}^{1-x ^{2}}fdzdxdy\]

OpenStudy (caozeyuan):

f is short for the integrand

OpenStudy (caozeyuan):

sorry, 1-y and 0 should swape

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Alright, so we have one with dx last and dy last, now we can make one with dz last. z is bounded by 0 and 1-x^2, which means z is also bounded from 0 to 1. Now we just need to continue to have x and y vary between the appropriate functions. Can you come up with that one?

OpenStudy (gamer56):

What do you think it is first?

OpenStudy (caozeyuan):

Also I think integrating fdzdydx should also count

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Well of course, I just was sticking with the idea that so far we've switched out the final variable we integrate with respect to. But we will have fdzdydx order as well.

OpenStudy (caozeyuan):

another can be y from 0 to 1, z from 0 to 2y-y^2 and x from 0 to 1-y integrating fdxdzdy

OpenStudy (anonymous):

That one works as well :)

OpenStudy (caozeyuan):

it is hard to put dz last becuase z depend on x to the second order

OpenStudy (caozeyuan):

the diagram on m txtbk shows the region is localized in first octet which means no worry about minus sign

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Well, z coming last would just require z to be between 0 and 1. We can say \(x=\sqrt{1-z}\) We don't need the plus or minus since x would only be between 0 and 1 anyway, which gives us x being between 0 and \(\sqrt{1-z}\) and then we can have y still be between 0 and 1-x. So the order: \[\int\limits_{0}^{1}\int\limits_{0}^{\sqrt{1-z}}\int\limits_{0}^{1-x}fdydxdz\] Would you agree with that one?

OpenStudy (caozeyuan):

so 1 is\[\int\limits_{0}^{1}\int\limits_{0}^{1-x}\int\limits_{0}^{1-x ^{2}}fdzdydx\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Sounds good to me :)

OpenStudy (caozeyuan):

2 is \[\int\limits_{0}^{1}\int\limits_{0}^{1-y}\int\limits_{0}^{1-x ^{2}}fdzdxdy\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I would agree.

OpenStudy (caozeyuan):

3 is\[\int\limits_{0}^{1}\int\limits_{0}^{2y-y ^{2}}\int\limits_{0}^{1-y}fdxdzdy\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So far so good :3

OpenStudy (caozeyuan):

4 is\[\int\limits_{0}^{1}\int\limits_{0}^{1-y}\int\limits_{0}^{2y-^{2}}fdzdxdy\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

We already have a dzdxdy, though :)

OpenStudy (caozeyuan):

finally we have 5 which is\[\int\limits_{0}^{1}\int\limits_{0}^{\sqrt{1-z}}\int\limits_{0}^{1-x}fdydxdz\]

OpenStudy (caozeyuan):

I thought it could be a different one cause the limits are diff

OpenStudy (anonymous):

you need 6 different orders, not just any 6 different representations of the limits. I need dxdydz dxdzdy dydxdz dydzdx dzdxdy dzdydx

OpenStudy (caozeyuan):

so it says " rewirte in five other orders" so mut be different squence of x,y,z?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Correct

OpenStudy (caozeyuan):

SHOOOOOT!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Well, some of our orders are different already, so let's see what we have We started with dydzdx then dzdxdy we have dxdzdy dydxdz dzdydx I think that's all. So we need dxdydz

OpenStudy (caozeyuan):

Another homework Q reads: Wirte five other integrals that have he same value as the given one" this time no worry about limits right?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I don't think it would matter based on how it's phrased.

OpenStudy (caozeyuan):

I mean I could use a trick if we don't care about limits

OpenStudy (caozeyuan):

From Calc I we know that if we change sign, we flip limits

OpenStudy (caozeyuan):

In Calc 3, if we flip limit once, we change sign, and we flip limits in two different places, we don't

OpenStudy (caozeyuan):

I think if we can do this, rewriting becomes very easy

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yeah, that would be very easy to do wouldn't it, haha. Maybe it intends for you to have all 6 orders, but phrased it in a way to make you think you could do other things. I personally would just practice actually writing all 6 orders of integration instead of being sneaky and just flipping signs and such :)

OpenStudy (caozeyuan):

THX!

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