Significant figures?! @perl
whats the difference between a measurement of 3.2 meters versus 3.20 meters
no difference...
oh, i see...I never learned error, etc.
whenever you do a measurement, there is an uncertainty related to the measurement
I've seen people talking about it on OpenStudy, but I've actually never learned it.
ok lets imagine you are looking at a meter ruler
Ok
a measurement of 3.2 meters is to the *nearest* tenth of a meter
a measurement of 3.20 meters is a measurement to the *nearest* hundreth of a meter
Oh, that makes sense...so it is more precise
they indicate different scale precisions
right
there are different conventions people use, i use
I get that. So in the number 0.0050, does it have 4 significant figures, or 2?
that will have 2, since the zeroes in front of the 5 can be removed, they are merely placeholders
I see. Thank you so much @perl
My chemistry lessons didn't go into this much detail.
the rules for sig fig are a little nutty. they are trying to incorporate two themes, precision and scientific notation
lol, "a little nutty" I'm with you on that
scientific notation is digit.decimal x 10^power
What about this? 1.050? Wouldn't that be 3, not 4?
that will be 4 , since the last zero indicates precision
what about the first zero?
let me be explicit , i will make a rule
that's what i meant
the first zero in between cannot be removed either,
but isn't the first zero a place holder?
the expression cannot be condensed
well... yes but
but...? NUTTY
you cant shrink the expression by putting it into scientific notation
one sec, let me give you a rule for measurement error
okay, so it is only ignored as a place holder if it can be gotten rid of through scientific notation
what exactly is the difference between 3.2 and 3.02 meters
...3.2 is 3 and 2 tenths. and 3.02 is 3 and 2 hundreths
for a measurement of 3.2 meters, x can be any number between: 3.2 - .1/2 < x < 3.2 + .1/2 for a measurement of 3.20 meters , x can be any number between 3.20 - .01/2 < x < 3.20 + .01/2
since we are saying, 3.2 is to the 'nearest' tenth of a meter
Yeah. I see
Okay, so 223.0050 has 7 sig figs? and 0.005 has 1 sig fig?
so for 3.2 meters 3.15 < x < 3.25 for 3.20 meters 3.195 < x < 3.205 so you see the precision increases
Okay, so 223.0050 has 7 sig figs? and 0.005 has 1 sig fig? yes and yes
does 200.0500 have 7 sig figs too?
yes,
awesome. I think I get it now. Thank you SO, so much @perl
the zeroes in between 2 and 5 are 'stuck' , cannot be eliminated. and the zeroes at the end after 5 indicate precision
by eliminated i mean with scientific notation
:)
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