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OpenStudy (studygurl14):

Significant figures?! @perl

OpenStudy (perl):

whats the difference between a measurement of 3.2 meters versus 3.20 meters

OpenStudy (studygurl14):

no difference...

OpenStudy (studygurl14):

oh, i see...I never learned error, etc.

OpenStudy (perl):

whenever you do a measurement, there is an uncertainty related to the measurement

OpenStudy (studygurl14):

I've seen people talking about it on OpenStudy, but I've actually never learned it.

OpenStudy (perl):

ok lets imagine you are looking at a meter ruler

OpenStudy (studygurl14):

Ok

OpenStudy (perl):

a measurement of 3.2 meters is to the *nearest* tenth of a meter

OpenStudy (perl):

a measurement of 3.20 meters is a measurement to the *nearest* hundreth of a meter

OpenStudy (studygurl14):

Oh, that makes sense...so it is more precise

OpenStudy (perl):

they indicate different scale precisions

OpenStudy (perl):

right

OpenStudy (perl):

there are different conventions people use, i use

OpenStudy (studygurl14):

I get that. So in the number 0.0050, does it have 4 significant figures, or 2?

OpenStudy (perl):

that will have 2, since the zeroes in front of the 5 can be removed, they are merely placeholders

OpenStudy (studygurl14):

I see. Thank you so much @perl

OpenStudy (studygurl14):

My chemistry lessons didn't go into this much detail.

OpenStudy (perl):

the rules for sig fig are a little nutty. they are trying to incorporate two themes, precision and scientific notation

OpenStudy (studygurl14):

lol, "a little nutty" I'm with you on that

OpenStudy (perl):

scientific notation is digit.decimal x 10^power

OpenStudy (studygurl14):

What about this? 1.050? Wouldn't that be 3, not 4?

OpenStudy (perl):

that will be 4 , since the last zero indicates precision

OpenStudy (studygurl14):

what about the first zero?

OpenStudy (perl):

let me be explicit , i will make a rule

OpenStudy (studygurl14):

that's what i meant

OpenStudy (perl):

the first zero in between cannot be removed either,

OpenStudy (studygurl14):

but isn't the first zero a place holder?

OpenStudy (perl):

the expression cannot be condensed

OpenStudy (perl):

well... yes but

OpenStudy (studygurl14):

but...? NUTTY

OpenStudy (perl):

you cant shrink the expression by putting it into scientific notation

OpenStudy (perl):

one sec, let me give you a rule for measurement error

OpenStudy (studygurl14):

okay, so it is only ignored as a place holder if it can be gotten rid of through scientific notation

OpenStudy (perl):

what exactly is the difference between 3.2 and 3.02 meters

OpenStudy (studygurl14):

...3.2 is 3 and 2 tenths. and 3.02 is 3 and 2 hundreths

OpenStudy (perl):

for a measurement of 3.2 meters, x can be any number between: 3.2 - .1/2 < x < 3.2 + .1/2 for a measurement of 3.20 meters , x can be any number between 3.20 - .01/2 < x < 3.20 + .01/2

OpenStudy (perl):

since we are saying, 3.2 is to the 'nearest' tenth of a meter

OpenStudy (studygurl14):

Yeah. I see

OpenStudy (studygurl14):

Okay, so 223.0050 has 7 sig figs? and 0.005 has 1 sig fig?

OpenStudy (perl):

so for 3.2 meters 3.15 < x < 3.25 for 3.20 meters 3.195 < x < 3.205 so you see the precision increases

OpenStudy (perl):

Okay, so 223.0050 has 7 sig figs? and 0.005 has 1 sig fig? yes and yes

OpenStudy (studygurl14):

does 200.0500 have 7 sig figs too?

OpenStudy (perl):

yes,

OpenStudy (studygurl14):

awesome. I think I get it now. Thank you SO, so much @perl

OpenStudy (perl):

the zeroes in between 2 and 5 are 'stuck' , cannot be eliminated. and the zeroes at the end after 5 indicate precision

OpenStudy (perl):

by eliminated i mean with scientific notation

OpenStudy (perl):

:)

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