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ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Is this function continuous? Justify

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

\(\large \mathbb{f : Z \rightarrow Z}\) where \(f(x) = \lfloor x\rfloor\)

OpenStudy (ikram002p):

:D yep

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

thanks! could you please explain why

OpenStudy (ikram002p):

2 ways i knw to show 1- its discrete function with 1-1 relation 2- for any x in Z there is n s.t , x in (x-n, x+n) for any f(x) in ( f(l) ,f(g) ) in this case it would be f(x) in ( f(x-n) ,f(x+n) )

OpenStudy (sidsiddhartha):

its a greatest integer function right?

OpenStudy (ikram002p):

floor function i guess :3

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

yes :) ikram - are all discrete functions continuous ? i see you're using limit definition in second method, im still going through it..

OpenStudy (sidsiddhartha):

yes then \[if~~f(x)=[x]\\then\\if,[x]=n \rightarrow n \le x \le n+1\]

OpenStudy (ikram002p):

first question ... only on Z , if all x has f(x) , and the function is monotone then continues . second question ... its neighborhood def thingy :3

OpenStudy (sidsiddhartha):

yesh :3

OpenStudy (ikram002p):

yep , some how

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Okay aren't you using below definition in second method ? \(\rm f(x)\) is continuous if \[\rm \forall \epsilon \gt 0, \exists \delta \gt 0 \;s.t \\~\\\; |x-a|\lt \delta \implies |f(x)-f(a)| \lt \epsilon\]

OpenStudy (sidsiddhartha):

ok some basic properties if u wanna know--\[1.[x+n]=n+[x],x \in Z\\2.[-x]=-[x], x \in Z\\3.[-x]=-[x]-1,x \notin Z\\4.[x]-[-x]=2n, x<n, n \in Z\\5.[x]-[-x]=2n+1, x=n+1,n \in Z\\6.[x] \ge n \rightarrow x \ge n\\7.[x+y] \ge [x]+[y]\]

OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):

yes they are, choose delta = 1/2 and you are done.

OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):

let \(\epsilon\) be given, choose \(\delta = 1/2\) then \(|x-a|< 1/2 \implies x=a \implies f(x) = f(a)\implies |f(x)-f(a)|=0<\epsilon\)

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

oh im convinced its continuous based on continuity definition, but it looks all broken on graph lol

OpenStudy (zarkon):

why do you guys keep using the floor function... the domain is the integers for any integer \(z\) we have\[ z=\lfloor z\rfloor\]

OpenStudy (zarkon):

so the above is really f(x)=x

OpenStudy (ikram002p):

dont u use graph , ur domain is Z, now if u have domain of C how would u also confenss yourself with graphing too ;)

OpenStudy (ikram002p):

here is how u can understand it by graphing |dw:1415943178028:dw|

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

I get it. domain is integers, so we only have integers to approach in domain and in codomain

OpenStudy (ikram002p):

exactly :)

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

If it was defined in \(\rm f:R\rightarrow R\), it wont be continuous because the limit wont exist at each integer. Got it completely thanks !

OpenStudy (ikram002p):

ovs :P

OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):

or R -> Z same thing really as the image is integral Any function on any subset of Z is continuous.

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Ohh does that mean jump discontinuity is not a real discontinuity as per the definitoin ?

OpenStudy (ikram002p):

x mod n is not continues :)

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

R->R f(x) = 1/x the function itself is not defined at x=0, so the domain wont include 0. that means the function is continuous right ?

OpenStudy (ikram002p):

yep

OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):

Let \(f:D\rightarrow \mathbb{R}\), where \(D\subseteq Z\). Let \(a\in D\), Let \(\epsilon > 0\), choose \(\delta = \frac{1}{2}\), then for all \(x\in D\). \(|x-a|< \delta \implies |x-a|<\frac{1}{2} \implies \\ x=a \implies f(x)=f(a) \implies |f(x)-f(a)|=0<\epsilon\)

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

\(\rm f:D\rightarrow R, ~f(x) = \lfloor x \rfloor\) that works for discrete functions because you're only interested in\(\mathbb {a \in D \subset Z}\), so any \(\delta \gt 0\) works for any given \(\epsilon \ge 0\) as this function is just all points.. idk how to say

OpenStudy (ikram002p):

i got what ur saying :)

OpenStudy (perl):

the function is not 'jumping' in its domain of Z

OpenStudy (perl):

its jumping with respect to R

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