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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Ok more integrals... see in the comment box ! :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\int\limits 3x ^{2} \sqrt[4]{10+2x^3} (dx)\]

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

u sub u=10+2x^2

OpenStudy (kainui):

Is there any relationship between anything here that you notice? Any ideas? Give it your best shot and we'll help you understand.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i know the 3x^2 does this... \[3x ^{2} \int\limits \]

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

srry gave it away

OpenStudy (kainui):

Or solomon will give you the answer to this easy problem

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

I am not going to give the answer, although I can certainly attempt to help. I just started these in class, they are not hard.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

The u substituon method I am still grasping... how can one tell what is U in each equation given ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i wish i saw this problem as easy, maybe after U-substitution practice I can be a pro !

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I got du/dx = 6x^2 (aka u')

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

well, without giving anything a reason, but just to remember. When you have an integral of F(x) and this function is contains f(x) and g(x) u = f(x) du = derivative of the f(x) that you are subbing for u, times dx (as if you took the derivative with du/dx and multiplied times the deferential dx on both sides)

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

yes

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

du/dx=6x^2 du=6x^2dx since you only have 3x^2 dx, then your sub will be 1/2 du=3x^2dx

OpenStudy (anonymous):

this is the part I get confused on... :/ "(as if you took the derivative with du/dx and multiplied times the deferential dx on both sides)"

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

du/dx=6x^2 du=6x^2dx since you only have 3x^2 dx, then your sub will be 1/2 du=3x^2dx

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

I disconnected, sorry./

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so after I find the derivative of U i just multiply it by dx ?

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

\[\LARGE \int\limits_{ }^{ }~\color{red}{3x^2}\sqrt[4]{\color{blue}{ 10+2x^3 }}\color{red}{dx}\]

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

the red part is 1/2du and the blue is u

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

and yes, about what you said.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

how did you get 1/2 du

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

I have du = 6x^2 dx, right?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes yes

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

I only have 3x^2 inside the integral, so, to get 3x^2 dx, I divide by 2 on both sides

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

from du = 6x^2 dx we obtain, 1/2 du = 3x^2 dx

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okay so that means we want to split up du/dx ?

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

\[\LARGE \int\limits_{ }^{ }~\color{red}{3x^2}\sqrt[4]{\color{blue}{ 10+2x^3 }}\color{red}{dx} \]\[\color{red}{\frac{1}{2}}\LARGE \int\limits_{ }^{ }~\sqrt[4]{\color{blue}{ u }}~~\color{red}{du} \]

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

we split up du/dx by mutliplying times the defferential dx on both sides, then we found 1/that we didn't have the entire du, as we said, du = 6x^2 dx and only had 3x^2 dx and then divided by 2 on both sides. See how I substituted in colors?

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

And you know how to integrate forth root of u, and then sub.... I'll be there if you need any help.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok let me give it a shot and I'll tag you in the comment box ! and thank you

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

anytime :)

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

you probably know this, \[\LARGE \sqrt[4]{u}=u^{1/4}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i did but I got stuck for some reason :/

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

for what reason?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i thought it may have had a special rule :(

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

you can post everything here, I don't mind if you draw it by hand, as long as I can read it:)

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

what is the problem?

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

no, just the power rule.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i am not good with radicals ?

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

yes you are.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok ok power rule yes yes i can take it from there

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i know! 5/4

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

alrighty, I am going to get some snacks, and be back. you should be done by then.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\frac{ u ^{5/4} }{ 5/4 }\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

can i simplify afterwards or no? normally i leave it as is.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

if I would simplify it would be 4/5 u^5/4 ?

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

you are forgetting something tho. \[\LARGE{\frac{1}{2}\int\limits_{ }^{ }u^{1/4}~du}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh!! the 1/2

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

the integral of u, is what you said, but you got to multiply times a half.

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

yes the 1/2

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i need to multiply that in right ? the 1/2

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so after i integrate u can i multiply the 1/2 to it ?

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

when you got 4/5 u ^5/4 them=n multiply times 1/2

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

1/2 ( 4/5 u ^5/4) = 2/5 u ^5/4

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

then we had that u=10+2x^3 so substitute back for u.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I get 2/5 u^5/4

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

yes

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okay so 2/5u^5/4 = 10 +2x^3 ?

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

not exactly, 2/5u^5/4 substitute back, as we did before, u= 10+2x^3 2/5 (10+2x^3)^5/4

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

\[\frac{2}{5}(10+2x^3)^{~5/4}\]

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

which is simplified to, \[\LARGE \frac{2}{5}(10+2x^3)\sqrt[4]{10+2x^3}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okay

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so 2/5 u^5/4 is u right?

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

yes in terms of u, but that is not yet the answer

OpenStudy (anonymous):

in u substition we find u first because we need to plug it in the end ?

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

we already established that u=10+2x^3 and this is how we integrated, and now we are substituting back for u

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

\[\LARGE \frac{2}{5}u^{5/4}\] becomes, \[\LARGE \frac{2}{5}(10+2x^3)^{5/4}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OMG

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

WHAt ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I just got it ! its similar to algebra ! i was looking at it wrong because if u= 10 +2x^3 and if I'm substituting 2/5 u^5/4 then all i have to do is plug in what i have which is u! (u= 10 + 2x^3) right ??

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

yes, all you are doing after you integrated with u, is just to pug it back in :)

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

to *plug it back

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

You are correct.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

thank you so much! I think I do have a brain now :)

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

Just the fact that you think proves that you have a brain. I stole from "I think therefore I am"

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

forgot who said the quote.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

haha good one ! thank you

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

Descartes

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

you welcome...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes descartes...

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