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OpenStudy (itiaax):

Differentiation help. *question attached below.

OpenStudy (itiaax):

myininaya (myininaya):

\[\frac{ \partial f}{ \partial y} =\frac{d f(y)}{dy}\] just pretend x and z are constants went differentiating w.r.t y

myininaya (myininaya):

oops i'm looking at b

myininaya (myininaya):

i should be looking at a?

myininaya (myininaya):

\[grad f=\frac{ \partial f}{ \partial x}i+\frac{\partial f}{\partial y}j+\frac{ \partial f}{\partial z} k\]

myininaya (myininaya):

to find the partial of f w.r.t x pretend like y and z are constants for now

myininaya (myininaya):

oh and there is no z up there so we just need the first two addends there

myininaya (myininaya):

the first question is weird because ln(0) doesn't exist...

myininaya (myininaya):

@iTiaax are you there?

OpenStudy (itiaax):

Sorry, I was working on another question

myininaya (myininaya):

first question doesn't make sense to me because when I check to see if the point is on that relation it isn't

OpenStudy (itiaax):

Um, why are we applying partial derivatives?

myininaya (myininaya):

because I got confused because i started looking at part b instead

myininaya (myininaya):

lol

OpenStudy (itiaax):

I know the answer for that is undefined, but I was having trouble with differentiating it before making my substitutions

myininaya (myininaya):

so i was like well we could do that here but we don't have to

myininaya (myininaya):

the problem @iTiaax I'm having is (1,0) isn't on that relation

myininaya (myininaya):

ln(0) doesn't exist so that tells me I don't even need to differentiate it

myininaya (myininaya):

\[\ln(1 \cdot 0^2)-\sin(0)=3(1)-2(0) \\ \ln(0)-0=3 \\ \ln(0)=3 \\ \text{ \not true }\]

myininaya (myininaya):

thought if you do want to find y' ... anyhow we can do that

myininaya (myininaya):

but there is no point

myininaya (myininaya):

\[\frac{d}{dx} \ln(x^2 y)= \frac{2xy+x^2y'}{x^2y}\]

myininaya (myininaya):

that is the derivative of the first term i assume that was the one you have trouble with?

OpenStudy (itiaax):

Yes, I was having trouble with the derivative of ln(x^2y)

myininaya (myininaya):

do you see what I did I used product rule for the derivative of (x^2y)

myininaya (myininaya):

and derivative of the ln thing is derivative of inside/inside

OpenStudy (itiaax):

Oh, I shall work it out here in my book and see if I get that result :)

myininaya (myininaya):

the result in the book? because I didn't find y' for you i just differentiated one term

OpenStudy (itiaax):

I know. I meant I'll work out the derivative here in my book and see if I get the result

myininaya (myininaya):

ok :p

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