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OpenStudy (anonymous):
Compute the flux of the vector field
F
through the surface S.
F = 2r
and S is the part of the surface
z = x^2 + y^2
above the disk
x^2 + y^2 ≤ 4,
oriented downward.
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
I keep getting pi but its wrong
11 years ago
ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
show ur work
11 years ago
OpenStudy (anonymous):
ok
11 years ago
OpenStudy (anonymous):
\[\int\limits(x i+yj+(x^2+y^2)k * (2 x i +2yj - k)dxdy\]
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
\[\int\limits (2x^2 +2y^2 -x^2 -y^2)dxdy\]
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
\[\int\limits(x^2+y^2) dxdy\]
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
\[\int\limits_{0}^{2\pi} \int\limits_{0}^{2} r^2rdrd \theta\]
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
I got 8pi this time but its wrong
11 years ago
OpenStudy (anonymous):
@ganeshie8 what do you think i'm doing wrong
11 years ago
ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
try -8pi
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ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
\[\int\langle x i+yj+(x^2+y^2\rangle \cdot \langle -2 x i -2yj+ k \rangle ~dxdy \]
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ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
cuz the surface is oriented downward
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ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
\[\iint\langle x i+yj+(x^2+y^2\rangle \cdot \langle -2 x i -2yj+ k \rangle ~dxdy \]
btw its good to use double integral whenever you mean a double integral
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
well that why is positive
11 years ago
ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
-8pi didnt work ?
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
this is the formula
11 years ago
ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
it wont open for me
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
the formula youre using is for oriented upward
11 years ago
ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
let me lookup my notes
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ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
have u tried -8pi ?
11 years ago
OpenStudy (anonymous):
\[\int\limits \int\limits F(x,y, f(x,y) ) * (f_x i +f_yj -k)dxdy \]
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
this is the formula for oriented downward
11 years ago
ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
nvm, you're right upward : <-fx, -fy, 1>
downward <fx, fy, -1>
11 years ago
OpenStudy (anonymous):
I'm wondering if my integral points are right
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ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
hey F = 2r right?
11 years ago
ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
you're using F=r instead it seems
11 years ago
OpenStudy (anonymous):
yeah F=2r
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
that's why I'm going from 0 to 2
11 years ago
ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
what has your region got to do anything with vectorfield ?
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
nothing, i'm confuse
11 years ago
ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
try 16pi
11 years ago
OpenStudy (anonymous):
what does the
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
I only have one more try
11 years ago
ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
your bounds depend only on the shadow in xy plane
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ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
0->2
0->2pi
give you the full disk of radius 2 in xy plane
11 years ago
ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
they are not related to given vector field
11 years ago
ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
F = 2r = <2x, 2y, 2z>
11 years ago
OpenStudy (anonymous):
so it's\[\int\limits_{0}^{2\pi} \int\limits_{0}^{1}\]
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ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
\[\int\limits_{0}^{2\pi}\int\limits_{0}^2\langle 2x i+2yj+2(x^2+y^2\rangle \cdot \langle 2 x i +2yj- k \rangle ~dxdy \]
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
so why is it \[\int\limits_{0}^{}\]
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
\[\int\limits_{0}^{?}\]
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
0 to 2
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
\[\int\limits_{0}^{2}\]
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
becuae 0f <4?
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ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
|dw:1416371958416:dw|
11 years ago
ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
how do u represent the disk x^2+y^2 <= 4 in polar ?
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
so the radius is 2
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
so what about if \[x^2 +x^2 \le1\]
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
that would make it \[\int\limits_{0}^{1}\]
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ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
thats right for representing the radius "r", it ranges from 0 to 1 if you are on disk of radius 1
11 years ago
OpenStudy (anonymous):
so what's making it 0 to 2 in this example? why not 0 to 4?
11 years ago
ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
whats the radius of circle x^2+y^2 = 4 ?
11 years ago
OpenStudy (anonymous):
oh yeah 2 haha the diameter is 4
11 years ago
ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
right
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
so \[\int\limits \int\limits 2(x^2+y^2)dxdy\]
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
\[\int\limits_{0}^{2\pi}\int\limits_{0}^{2} 2r^2rdr d \theta\]
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ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
looks good to me
11 years ago