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OpenStudy (dan815):

number theory questionq http://prntscr.com/58jn7n

OpenStudy (dan815):

@ganeshie8 @KamiBug @Miracrown @Kainui

OpenStudy (dan815):

http://prntscr.com/58jowo i dont understand this part, gimme an example

OpenStudy (dan815):

what is a non-constant polynomial mean

OpenStudy (kainui):

one that has terms other than ax^0

OpenStudy (ikram002p):

means f(x)=g(x)I(x) such that \(g(x)=\sum a_ix^i\) \(I(x)=\sum b_jx^j\) and for all b's and a's they are 1 or 2 ( depend on binomial theorem )

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

basically you want to find the ordered pairs such that the polynomial is not prime

OpenStudy (ikram002p):

and yes i and j are not zero

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

f(x) = g(x) * h(x) the degrees of g and h need to be atleast 1

OpenStudy (dan815):

why such that the polynomial is not prime

OpenStudy (ikram002p):

this is what it asked for :D

OpenStudy (dan815):

ok i see

OpenStudy (dan815):

why didnt they just write that out

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

takes too many words if u use degree and other stuff to state the problem

OpenStudy (dan815):

hmm lets carry on

OpenStudy (dan815):

interesting problem

OpenStudy (dan815):

man us 3 are the only ones that stick it out with these problems lol

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

so it is in this form\[f(x) = x^n + x^{n-1} + \cdots + 2(x^m+x^{m-1}+\cdots+1)\]

OpenStudy (dan815):

yeah

OpenStudy (dan815):

0<=M<=N<=25

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

yeah m<n is implied in above split up

OpenStudy (dan815):

0<=m<n<=25

OpenStudy (dan815):

m=n-k

OpenStudy (dan815):

ya okay bascally in that form

OpenStudy (dan815):

oh i see

OpenStudy (dan815):

okay i see where that combinatorics is gonna come out

OpenStudy (dan815):

for exampl,e of f(x)=g(x) * h(x) for g(x)=x then u are gonna have that same coefficients , and degree just decreased by 1

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

\[\begin{align}f(x) &= x^n + x^{n-1} + \cdots + 2(x^m+x^{m-1}+\cdots+1)\\~\\ &=(x^n + x^{n-1} + \cdots +x+ 1)+ (x^m+x^{m-1}+\cdots+x+1)\\~\\ &=\dfrac{x^{n+1}-1}{x-1}+\dfrac{x^{m+1}-1}{x-1}\\~\\ \end{align}\]

OpenStudy (dan815):

of f(x)=x^n+x^n-1..+2x^m+x^m-1..+2 for g(x)=x,x^2,x^3,.... h(x) for g(x)=x h(X)=x^n-1+x^m+2*x^m-1...+2/x <--- problem with this one

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Recall the formula \[x^{ab}-1 = \left(x^a\right)^b-1 = (x^a-1)(x^{a(b-1)} + x^{a(b-2)}+\cdots +x + 1) \]

OpenStudy (dan815):

where did that formula come from

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

that follows from \(\large x^n-1 = (x-1)(x^{n-1} + x^{n-2}+ \cdots +x+1)\) plugin \(n=ab\)

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