how do you even solve this? 1) y = 2^x ; y = x + 1 and 2) y = e^-x ; y = x^2
I guess my question is, what do you mean by solve?
(x,y) coordinates
well, if you just need some, just pick a few x values and plug them in where you see an x. x=0,-1,1 are usually good choices
ah, then that solves 1, I guess there was no proper way to solve 1. How about 2?
same thing?
do you mean solve the system of equations ie where they are equal?
Yeah.
that's a useful bit of info
Sorry, just found it in the book.
so set \[e^{-x}=x^2\]
(y=y)<-- that way you can find the answer, so then, solve for x or use a quick observation
what is the biggest e^-x can ever be?
0?
2^0 doesn't equal zero does it?
and asked for the biggest it could be
also, another way is to just graph them and take a look at the point of intersection
It's 1, sorry, it was either 1 or 0 when I looked at it. Didn't think it through xD
*biggest it can be provided x is positive, **
but yea, 1, does x^2 ever equal 1?
yeah
are the x values the same when it happens?
no.
ok so the algebraic way is messy, I recommend graphing it's easier. Here use this https://www.desmos.com/calculator
I solved it with this but yeah, Algebraically would have been nice xD
\[e^{-x}=x^2\] we'd have to use a log.... hmm -x=2lnx
-x/lnx=2 ln e^-x/lnx=2 ln(e^{-x}-x)=2
e^{-x}-x=e^2... hmm
hmm.... or maybe since y=e^{-x} then \[x=-lny\] and \[x=\frac{+}{-}\sqrt{x}\]
we get y=2lny then hmm
still can't solve
any ideas on an algebraic way guys? @ganeshie8 , @eliassaab , @hero, @ikram002p , @ wio
You don't have to solve that second one anymore, unless you want to. I just saw it and wanted to know how.
I do too... that's the thing... I can't figure it out
\[ y=x+1; \quad y= 2^x\\ 2^x=x+1\\ x=0 \text { or } x=1 \]
Oh, thanks.
familiar with lambert w function ?
@Kainui
For the second one there no really elementary algebraic solution unless you use the productlog function. A numerical solution will give x= .7034
\[\LARGE e^{-x}=x^2 \]\[\LARGE 1 = x^2 e^x\]\[\LARGE \pm 1 = xe^{x/2} \]\[\LARGE \frac{\pm 1}{2}=\frac{x}{2}e^{x/2} \]\[\LARGE W(\frac{\pm1}{2})=\frac{x}{2}\]\[\LARGE 2 W(\frac{\pm 1}{2})=x\] So although this is one answer: http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=2*W(1%2F2)&t=crmtb01 the other answer is a complex number since the smallest real value is -1/e which is close to -1/3: http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=2*W%28-1%2F2%29
Ugghh.. I haven't a clue on how all that happened @.@ Don't bother explaining, I've already wasted your time xD
thanks guys, I was thoroughly curious!
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