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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Which equations show that the set of whole numbers is not closed under subtraction? Choose all answers that are correct. A. 1 – (–2) = 3 B. 1 – 2 = –1 C. 2 – 0 = 2 D. 2 – 4 = –2

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yes That is true

OpenStudy (anonymous):

But its Mulitple anwsers

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so there is more than 1 anwser

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Cave, in order to show closure for a set, you need to start with two elements in the set. (Keep in mind that negative numbers are NOT in the set of Whole numbers). So you need to look for which one starts with two whole numbers, then ends up with something that is not a whole number

zepdrix (zepdrix):

It is not A.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Its c

OpenStudy (anonymous):

and A

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Notice that option A shows us doing subtraction with a negative number. Negatives are not in the set of whole numbers. You need to start with this :) \(\Large\rm whole~number -whole~number=\)

OpenStudy (daniel_chernioglo):

True

OpenStudy (anonymous):

D

OpenStudy (anonymous):

and b

zepdrix (zepdrix):

D sounds correct, you start with two elements in the wholes, then doing subtraction, you left the set of whole numbers. And B also? Yay good job \c:/

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so is B correct?

zepdrix (zepdrix):

It's not C. C does not show us leaving the set of whole numbers. See how the result is still positive.

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Daniel stop guessing D: oh my goodness lol

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So WHat is the second one Im confused!

OpenStudy (daniel_chernioglo):

so the answer has to end with negative?

zepdrix (zepdrix):

How can you honestly not know which ones are correct? Read my previous posts silly :O Two of the options you choose were correct.... just read it

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Okay, Daniel was confusing me....

OpenStudy (daniel_chernioglo):

sorry guys!!!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

D and B

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yes or no thats all i need to know

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Yes daniel:\[\Large\rm whole~number -whole~number=not~whole~number\]\[\Large\rm positive-positive=negative\]That's what we were looking for ^ yes cave :3

OpenStudy (daniel_chernioglo):

I just didnt get it b/c it sait: not closed under subtraction

OpenStudy (anonymous):

D and b thats Final

OpenStudy (daniel_chernioglo):

I get it now though

OpenStudy (daniel_chernioglo):

Yes its D and B

OpenStudy (anonymous):

could you help with another question plz

OpenStudy (daniel_chernioglo):

Ahhh i could try?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

For which operations is the set {0, 1} closed? Choose all answers that are correct. A. multiplication B. division C. addition D. subtraction

OpenStudy (daniel_chernioglo):

let me think about it

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I think its division (a) and Multipilcation

OpenStudy (anonymous):

a and b

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@zepdrix need help plz

zepdrix (zepdrix):

If we do this:\[\Large\rm 0-1\]Do we end up with a number which is in the set?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Subtraction

zepdrix (zepdrix):

I asked you a question

OpenStudy (anonymous):

me

zepdrix (zepdrix):

I didn't ask if it was subtraction. That's not the question I asked -_-

OpenStudy (anonymous):

No you wont

OpenStudy (daniel_chernioglo):

I know it A

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Ok good, so it's not closed under subtraction :) That takes away option D.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes

OpenStudy (daniel_chernioglo):

addition doesnt work either

zepdrix (zepdrix):

\[\Large\rm \frac{1}{0}\]How bout division? Do we end up with an element in the set if we do this?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oops no!

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Ok good :) No division by zero in the land of math. So division is also a no no.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so its MultiPlication and addition its multi anwser question!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Zeptrix I feel like you are my online teacher XD

OpenStudy (anonymous):

you help alot!

zepdrix (zepdrix):

@jim_thompson5910 do we have to add two `different` elements to show closure under addition? I can't remember :( Or can we add the same element to itself?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

can you help me with another question

OpenStudy (daniel_chernioglo):

i dont think that addition works

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Which sets of numbers are closed under division? Choose all answers that are correct. A. rational numbers B. integers C. {–1, 0, 1} D. whole numbers

OpenStudy (anonymous):

let me fix that

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

They don't have to be different, but to get a counterexample, you have to use different numbers to subtract.

zepdrix (zepdrix):

ah ok :)

zepdrix (zepdrix):

So did you understand the last question cave? :O \[\Large\rm 1+1\]We are not closed under addition, yah?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

The whole numbers are closed under addition. There is no way to add two whole numbers to get a nonwhole number.

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Yah we were on a second question :) The set containing 0 and 1.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Which sets of numbers are closed under division? Choose all answers that are correct. A. rational numbers B. integers C. {–1, 0, 1} D. whole numbers

OpenStudy (anonymous):

the question marks are a -

OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):

what is the one element that would make it hard to divide by?

OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):

what set does not contain this element?

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