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OpenStudy (anonymous):

What is the maximum transverse speed v_y of the bead? For a standing wave.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I have done everything and am on the last final step but I am still unable to solve the problem.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@ProfBrainstorm, I have followed the steps but am still having trouble.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

You know the displacement of the string is Asin(wt)sin(kx) Have you figured out correctly the expression for the transverse velocity ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Awsin(kx)cos(wt)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

(7.50*10^-2)(5.71*10.5)sin(5.71x)cos(5.71*10.5*t) am I not writing it out properly?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yes, now, you have the value of k, do you also have the value of omega ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

w=vk w=(10.5*5.71) w=59.95

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Alright, now we have everything we need except the value of x to plug in, what value are you using for x ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

In other words, what is the x coordinate of the bead along the string ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

sorry I was making waffles!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I wasn't sure, but should x even matter if it's always going to be between 1 and -1

OpenStudy (anonymous):

x very much matters, it is a fixed value at the position of the bead, it is the other term involving the time that we can essentially ignore

OpenStudy (anonymous):

x is not the transverse displacement of the bead, it is simply the distance along the string

OpenStudy (anonymous):

27.5!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

silly me

OpenStudy (anonymous):

no

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ouch

OpenStudy (anonymous):

the first antinode occurs at x=0.275 m

OpenStudy (anonymous):

and then the bead is positioned 0.138 m to the right of that antinode, so . . .

OpenStudy (anonymous):

conversion and subtraction! thanskingiving has hit me hard.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

waffles, thanksgiving : (

OpenStudy (anonymous):

in my country. but .275-.138=.137 :^)?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i think you need to add ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

(7.50*10^-2)(5.71*10.5)sin(5.71*0.413)cos(5.71*10.5*t)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

that first factor should be7.5 * 10^-3, should it not ? converting from mm to m ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes yes that is correct o 0.0075

OpenStudy (anonymous):

5.71*10.5 is w

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okay, now do you understand that the cosine involving the time can just be set equal to 1, in order to find the maximum value of the expression as time varies ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so 1 to find the max value as time varies, yes.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

alright, so now just calculate what the rest of it comes to and you have v max

OpenStudy (anonymous):

No, you've misunderstood You don't just set t=1, you set the whole cosine expression involving time equal to 1

OpenStudy (anonymous):

"Since all of the other terms are constant over time, at a given location, the maximum value for vy(x,t) will occur when this time-dependent sine term is at a maximum. Thus, you simply need to know that the sine function oscillates between ±1." This is what they are telling me as a hint

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yes, I understand what they are saying, that's what I'm telling you as well You need to work out (7.50*10^-3)(5.71*10.5)sin(5.71*0.413)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ohhhhhh light bulb, I've answered my own questio.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

im so silly. No I get it now :^)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Okay, but one last point where you have to be careful, the quantity in the remaining sine is not in degrees, it is in radians, so be careful with units when evaluating the sine

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Let me know what final answer you get

OpenStudy (anonymous):

0.317312 rounded to 0.314

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i mean 0.317

OpenStudy (anonymous):

0.317 is what I have too, yes : ) meters per second, don't forget the units !

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Bingo bingo! Correct

OpenStudy (anonymous):

glad i could help

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Part D To check your equation for the standing wave's transverse velocity, find the maximum transverse velocity at x = 55.0cm . Express your answer in meters per sec

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Don't help jsut yet, I am doing

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok, i'll check back later

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Thank you for your help!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so transverse velocity at x=55cm, i plug in 0.55 into x into the previous equation and get a very small number: 0.000491325

OpenStudy (anonymous):

hmmm - interesting what was the position of that first antinode again ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

27.5cm

OpenStudy (anonymous):

woah!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

right, and if you move out twice as far, you come to a node, a point where there is no motion whatsoever in the standing wave

OpenStudy (anonymous):

you see what they're getting at ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So I added and it's magic, I got -0.318 this time

OpenStudy (anonymous):

well if you move out to x=55cm, you've arrived at a node, so there should be no motion, zero velocity, which is what I found

OpenStudy (anonymous):

when you say you added, what do you mean ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

or 0.000491325? I got -0.318 adding .138 to .55 with the light bead.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

or is it just .55? if so then it is 0.000491325

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ah no, it's nothing to do with the bead now, they're telling you right off that x=o.55m

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so 0 or 0.000491325

OpenStudy (anonymous):

well zero to the accuracy that we've been using

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yes that makes sense!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

you see what they're getting you to do - you know that there is a node at x=55cm and so they ask you to see if the equation predicts this zero motion position correctly

OpenStudy (anonymous):

which it does

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes no motion being there!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

right

OpenStudy (anonymous):

eureeka, nail on the head. Thank you again!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

welcome

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