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OpenStudy (anonymous):

(x)=x4+4x3+100 Find the global minimum value of the function f, that is, give the minimum value of f and the value of x for which this occurs. This is not a homework problem. I have a exam and I don't know how to answer this question. I did the first and second derivative test. I don't need answer. I don't wanna fail my exam. Can anyone explain step by step how they would do these kind of problems. I am sorry if this is a lot to explain, but I looked on youtube and all of the videos explained with the intervals. It did not help. Thank you.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Let's try doing it again :D

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Could you differentiate it?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yeah

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I actually took first and second derivative

OpenStudy (anonymous):

What did you get for the first derivative?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

x=0 and x=-3

OpenStudy (anonymous):

What about second derivative?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

x=0 and x=-2

OpenStudy (anonymous):

You equated the second derivative to zero? :P

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yeah

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Why, though? Just get the second derivative, and I'll show you how to use it :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

that's how i was taught to get second derivative. ok, I will look for another way and get the value.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Oh, I'm sure you got the second derivative correctly, I was just asking for it in its raw form... you know, as a function of x? lol f''(x)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

f''(x)=12x^2+24x

OpenStudy (anonymous):

That's better. If the first derivative gives you the rate of change (increasing, decreasing, stagnant, etc) What does the second derivative tell you?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

concavity?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Exactly. So, you know that since this is a differentiable function, its extrema could only ever be at points where the first derivative is zero, yes? :D

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i did not know that lol

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Oh. Well, now you do ^^

OpenStudy (anonymous):

thank you

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So, x = 0 and x = 3 are the values which zero out the first derivative, right?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Oops, I meant x = -3 lol

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yeah

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So, these are POSSIBLE extrema. How to find out if they are? Take the second derivative :) What I want you to do now is plug in x = 0 and x = -3 in the function f''(x) and tell me what you get :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

36 and 0

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Okay. You know what those numbers mean, right? lol Positive second derivative means it's concave upward at that poinit Zero second derivative means it's a POSSIBLE point of inflection at that point. What's a characteristic of a minimum? :p

OpenStudy (anonymous):

decreasing and increasing?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

You could use that, but that's harder, and doesn't involve the second derivative test at all :D Here's a rough sketch

OpenStudy (anonymous):

|dw:1417195121189:dw| Here's a curve with a minimum

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i knew that ummm

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So, what can you say about its first derivative at this point?|dw:1417195192975:dw|

OpenStudy (anonymous):

It's zero, because it's flat, right?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yeah

OpenStudy (anonymous):

What about its concavity?|dw:1417195240044:dw| Does it curve up or down?

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