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OpenStudy (anonymous):

angular momentum

OpenStudy (anonymous):

the velocity of a 2kg body moving in the xy plane is given by v=7i-2j m/s. Its position vector is r=2i+1j m. calculate its angular momentum about the origin in kgm^2/s

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I know l=Iw and that v=rw so w=v/r

OpenStudy (anonymous):

but Im not dividing the vectors properly I guess because Im not getting the right answer

OpenStudy (surry99):

What answer are you getting for omega?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

w=3/2

OpenStudy (surry99):

hang on...

OpenStudy (surry99):

you are using cross product correct?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

no I used dot

OpenStudy (anonymous):

why is it cross?

OpenStudy (surry99):

v = omega cross r by definition ...it is a cross product not a dot product.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok I need to change my notes then thank you. Can you walk me through the cross product then because when I tried that I got I=22k but the answer option is -22k

OpenStudy (surry99):

sure, what was your method to get 22k?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

using foil (7i-2j)(2i+1j)=14ii+7ij-4ji-2jj 0+7k+4k+0 7k+4k=11k 11*2=22

OpenStudy (surry99):

your method does appear valid....

OpenStudy (surry99):

Can you please check to make sure the that the vectors for v and r are correct from the original problem...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes they are

OpenStudy (anonymous):

is ti because I have to do the cross product of 1/r since w=v/r

OpenStudy (surry99):

Sorry for my typo...it should have said the method is not valid...you have dotted v and r

OpenStudy (anonymous):

alright im still lost then

OpenStudy (surry99):

you should be expressing omega as follows ai + bJ + ck. Then you know omega cross r gives is velocity. So you will then use the definition of the cross product and solve for a, b and c

OpenStudy (surry99):

What book is this from?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I do not know. This is one of my past test questions that I got wrong, and I am trying to do it over again to understand what I did wrong, but Im not getting it.

OpenStudy (surry99):

Can you send me a photo of the question please?

OpenStudy (surry99):

I know the method I am using is correct but the answer I am getting doesn't make sense

OpenStudy (anonymous):

how will a picture help?

OpenStudy (surry99):

Based on my math, the answer I am getting is not reasonable. So perhaps if I see the question I might notice what the problem is.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

the way I typed it is the way it looks there is no additional picture or anything

OpenStudy (surry99):

ok, do you know what the correct answer for omega is suppose to be?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

no

OpenStudy (surry99):

ok hang on...

OpenStudy (surry99):

i am going to send you what I have done so you can see the problem

OpenStudy (surry99):

ok, lets use a scalar approach instead of vectors. Consider the scalar equation v = omega*r From what is provided you can find the magnitude of v and the magnitude or r and then sub in to find the magnitude of omega....go ahead

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok so then v=sqrt53 and r=sqrt5

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so w=sqrt53/sqrt5

OpenStudy (surry99):

Yes, now you can use that to determine the angular momentum but it will be a scalr not a vector

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so w~3 which times 2 is ~6

OpenStudy (surry99):

What are you using to calculate I for the body?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

2kg. I see now that's wrong because I=mr^2 ill change that real quick

OpenStudy (anonymous):

or would I because I assume it's suppose to be taken as a point mass

OpenStudy (surry99):

Fora point mass, it is mr^2

OpenStudy (anonymous):

alright so then multiply by 5 since r=sqrt5 we get ~24

OpenStudy (anonymous):

which is still positive

OpenStudy (anonymous):

thank you for all your help but I think im just going to ask my teacher when I get a chance

OpenStudy (surry99):

You can get the correct sense of rotation by sketching the velocity vector and seeing whether you have clockwise of counterclockwise rotation which

OpenStudy (surry99):

the rotation will then be positive or negative based on sign convention

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Sorry to interrupt, you can just work out L= r x mv using the fact that i x i = 0, j x j = 0, i x j = k and j x i = -k L = m (2i + j) x (7i - 2j) = -22k

OpenStudy (anonymous):

The minus sign means that as you look down on the xy plane from above the rotation is in a clockwise sense.

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