angular momentum
the velocity of a 2kg body moving in the xy plane is given by v=7i-2j m/s. Its position vector is r=2i+1j m. calculate its angular momentum about the origin in kgm^2/s
I know l=Iw and that v=rw so w=v/r
but Im not dividing the vectors properly I guess because Im not getting the right answer
What answer are you getting for omega?
w=3/2
hang on...
you are using cross product correct?
no I used dot
why is it cross?
v = omega cross r by definition ...it is a cross product not a dot product.
ok I need to change my notes then thank you. Can you walk me through the cross product then because when I tried that I got I=22k but the answer option is -22k
sure, what was your method to get 22k?
using foil (7i-2j)(2i+1j)=14ii+7ij-4ji-2jj 0+7k+4k+0 7k+4k=11k 11*2=22
your method does appear valid....
Can you please check to make sure the that the vectors for v and r are correct from the original problem...
yes they are
is ti because I have to do the cross product of 1/r since w=v/r
Sorry for my typo...it should have said the method is not valid...you have dotted v and r
alright im still lost then
you should be expressing omega as follows ai + bJ + ck. Then you know omega cross r gives is velocity. So you will then use the definition of the cross product and solve for a, b and c
What book is this from?
I do not know. This is one of my past test questions that I got wrong, and I am trying to do it over again to understand what I did wrong, but Im not getting it.
Can you send me a photo of the question please?
I know the method I am using is correct but the answer I am getting doesn't make sense
how will a picture help?
Based on my math, the answer I am getting is not reasonable. So perhaps if I see the question I might notice what the problem is.
the way I typed it is the way it looks there is no additional picture or anything
ok, do you know what the correct answer for omega is suppose to be?
no
ok hang on...
i am going to send you what I have done so you can see the problem
ok, lets use a scalar approach instead of vectors. Consider the scalar equation v = omega*r From what is provided you can find the magnitude of v and the magnitude or r and then sub in to find the magnitude of omega....go ahead
ok so then v=sqrt53 and r=sqrt5
so w=sqrt53/sqrt5
Yes, now you can use that to determine the angular momentum but it will be a scalr not a vector
so w~3 which times 2 is ~6
What are you using to calculate I for the body?
2kg. I see now that's wrong because I=mr^2 ill change that real quick
or would I because I assume it's suppose to be taken as a point mass
Fora point mass, it is mr^2
alright so then multiply by 5 since r=sqrt5 we get ~24
which is still positive
thank you for all your help but I think im just going to ask my teacher when I get a chance
You can get the correct sense of rotation by sketching the velocity vector and seeing whether you have clockwise of counterclockwise rotation which
the rotation will then be positive or negative based on sign convention
Sorry to interrupt, you can just work out L= r x mv using the fact that i x i = 0, j x j = 0, i x j = k and j x i = -k L = m (2i + j) x (7i - 2j) = -22k
The minus sign means that as you look down on the xy plane from above the rotation is in a clockwise sense.
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