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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Solve system of equations...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

x+y+7z =17 x+y+4z=8 x-9y+4z=28

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OpenStudy (michele_laino):

please, take the first two equation, and solve them in order to find x, and y, consider z not a variable

OpenStudy (anonymous):

That is what I did

OpenStudy (anonymous):

x+y+7z=17 *4> -4x-4y-28z=-68 x+y+4z=8 *7> 7x+7y+28z=56

OpenStudy (anonymous):

=3x+3y=-12

OpenStudy (anonymous):

2 and 3: x+y+4z=8 *-1> -x-y-4z=-8 x-9y+4z=28 =-10y=20

OpenStudy (michele_laino):

sorry take the first and the third equations I have made an error

OpenStudy (michele_laino):

you will get this system: \[x+y=17-7z,x-9y=28-4z\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

x+y+7z=17 *-4> -4x-4y-28z=-68 x-9y+4z=28 *7> 7x-63+28z=196

OpenStudy (michele_laino):

now, please solve the system for x, usin, for example the substitution method,, please consider z like a known quantity

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok I see you moved the z instead

OpenStudy (michele_laino):

@TMA76 for example from the first equation I get: \[x=17-7z-y\] please insert that expression into the second equation of your system

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I dont understand

OpenStudy (anonymous):

x=17 -y-7z x=8-y-4z

OpenStudy (radar):

subtract equation 2 from equation 1 getting 3z = 9 solve for z, getting z = 3 subtract equation 3 from equation 2 getting 10y = -20 solve for y, getting y = -2 Substitute the solved values for z and y in any of the three equations and solve for x, getting, x = -2.

OpenStudy (michele_laino):

please, @TMA76 insert the formula 17-y-7z, into the subsequent equation: x-9y=28-4z in place of x

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@radar can you show me how you go that because I am so confused right now

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok i got it

OpenStudy (anonymous):

you showed me different what I tried to learn from

OpenStudy (radar):

Yes, it is the "elimination" process, a method that is taught to solve system of equations. Take the first line in my post above and observe the following: x + Y +7z =17 x + y + 4z =8 subtract ------------------- 0 + 0 +3z =9 3z = 9 divide both sides by 3 and get z = 3 Did you follow the method for solving z. Note the x and y variables were "eliminated" by the subtraction......they will be solved later.....do you understand how z was solved?

OpenStudy (radar):

O.K. were you asked to solve by "substitution" method? or the elimination method ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

solution set which is supposed to be -2,-2,3

OpenStudy (anonymous):

but I still havent solved x by plugging y or z. I think you are doing it reverse.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

instead I got 6 for x instead of -2

OpenStudy (radar):

To verify your value of 6, substitute it in equation 1, with the values you've obtained for z and y. Here is what it got, my solution set was (-2. -2. 3) x+y + 7z = 17 -2 -2 +7(3) = 17 -4 + 21 = 17 17=17 As you can see it checks out correctly. Please post your work where you solved for x and obtain a 6. I will try and follow it and point out where you went astray.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok i plugged y and z for the third equation but it did not work for the first one because I got 6

OpenStudy (anonymous):

third equation i got -2 so it works

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok so on the first one I plug 6 back in

OpenStudy (anonymous):

wait so I dont put y and z to equation 1 but only for equation 2 or 3?

OpenStudy (radar):

3rd equation: x - 9y + 4z = 28 substituting the 3 for z and -2 for y x -9(-2) +4(3) = 28 x + 18 + 12 = 28 x + 30 =28 x=28-30 x = -2

OpenStudy (radar):

Let me understand what you have solved.........what have you solved for z? What have you solved for y?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

z=3 y=-2 I have not figured out x but z and y does not work for equation 1 it works for equation 3 to get x

OpenStudy (radar):

If you have a value of 6 for x, it won't work out for equation 1, 2, or 3. It is simply wrong if you substitute the values you have for y and z (which are correct) you will get the correct answer for x in any of those 3 equations.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so I only use equation 2 or 3 and not 1?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

plug y and z only to equation 2 or 3 and not 1

OpenStudy (anonymous):

sorry wrong pic

OpenStudy (radar):

You made an error in your solution for x in the drawing (link) When you moved the -2 to the right of the equal sign (adding 2 to both sides, you did not use a +2 on the right. Instead of 15, you should have 19.

OpenStudy (radar):

Straighten out that algebra error and you will do O.K.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok

OpenStudy (anonymous):

tha nkz

OpenStudy (radar):

You made a similar error on the first link when you solved for y. Hey no problem you are most welcome. If you look at my first post, you will find that the order in which I eliminated the variables was pretty efficient and simple. The order is really up to you, you can solve in any order, eliminating the variable of your choice.

OpenStudy (radar):

Good luck with your studies TMA76.

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