College Algebra: reviewing for final exam! Name the center and radius of the circle: (equation in comment below)
\[x ^{2}+y ^{2}-4x+6y-3=0\]
Latex is the killer, my connection snapped.
Mine too, I had to refresh twice.
\(\large\color{black}{ x^2+y^2-4x+6y-3=0 }\) lets rearrange it a bit, \(\large\color{black}{ x^2-4x+y^2+6y-3=0 }\) then add 3 to both sides, \(\large\color{black}{ x^2-4x+y^2+6y=3 }\) and we are looking at: \(\large\color{black}{ \color{blue}{x^2-4x}+\color{red}{y^2+6y}=3 }\)
1) what number do you add to the BLUE, to make it a perfect square? 1) what number do you add to the RED, to make it a perfect square?
the second question is number 2, my bad.
4 would be 2 and 6 would be ....
I apologize, I don;t understand.
The perfect square for 4 is 2. But I'm not sure if 6 has a perfect square
no no, we are adding a number that would make a trinomial a perfect square.
Ohhh. Wouldn't you add 4 to 4 to be 16 and add 6 to 6 to be 36?
I mean multiply
oh I love how this site disconnects me.
andf again just now.
It was happening to me a lot this morning. I get disconnected, but when I refresh, the page stays refreshing for about 5 minutes to more.
\(\large\color{black}{ \color{blue}{x^2-2x+1}+\color{red}{y^2+8y+16}=4\color{blue}{+1} \color{red}{+16} }\) I mean this.
Yes, okay, back to the prob. do you see what I am doing above?
Not really. I'm trying to understand how you got those numbers
I mean. \(\large\color{black}{ \color{blue}{x^2-2x}+\color{red}{y^2+8y}=4 }\) \(\large\color{black}{ \color{blue}{x^2-2x+1}+\color{red}{y^2+8y+16}=4\color{blue}{+1} \color{red}{+16} }\)
I am adding numbers. 1 to the blue, and 16 to the red.
because "1" would make the blue polynomial a perfect square trinomial, and so the same will do 16 to the red.
Where did the 2 and 8 come from?
you mean the 1 and 16?
2 and 8, are just another example.
do you understand how I did the 2 steps in my last reply in red and blue?
Nope, you lost me
sorry.
Do you know how to complete the square?
Wouldn't that involve \[(-\frac{ b }{ 2 })^{2}\] ?
yes.
this number you just posted is the number needed to complete the square for a trinomial.
Ohhhh, I got it!!
So, when we do this.... \(\large\color{black}{ \color{blue}{x^2-2x}+\color{red}{y^2+8y}=4 }\) \(\large\color{black}{ \color{blue}{x^2-2x+1}+\color{red}{y^2+8y+16}=4\color{blue}{+1} \color{red}{+16} }\) you see what I am doing right?
Yes I do.
but it is \(\large\color{black}{ (\frac{b}{2})^2 }\) not minus. where b is coefficient, in \(\large\color{black}{ x^2+bx+c }\)
Oh, my professor told me it had a negative
it does not. unless the "b" in your trinomial is negative then you say namely, (-2/2)^2
Of course would still be positive answer lolx
Why does god do this to me?
(._.)
okay, back to your problem. \(\large\color{black}{ x^2+y^2-4x+6y-3=0 }\) rearrangement. \(\large\color{black}{ \color{blue}{x^2-4x}+\color{red}{y^2+6y}-3=0 }\) \(\large\color{black}{ \color{blue}{x^2-4x}+\color{red}{y^2+6y}=3 }\)
what numbes, do you add to the blue and to the red, to make both trinomials perfect squares/
Alright, I would add 4 to the blue and 9 to the red.
Yup:)
Woohoo! :)
\(\large\color{black}{ \color{blue}{x^2-4x\underline{+4}}+\color{red}{y^2+6y\underline{+9}}=3\color{blue}{\underline{+4}}\color{red}{\underline{+9}} }\)
See, and I am not changing the value of both sides, right?
like a=b then a+3=b+3 type of thing.
Now, you need to write it in your normal form that we so looked for:)
\[(x-4)^{2}+(y-6)^{2}=16\] I felt like this is what the normal form is from the last question I asked
your Xs is right. check the y.
Oops \[(x-4)^{2}+(y+6)^{2}=16\]
yes, +6 lol;)
I'll be leaving in about 5 minutes... so have a good night and a good math.
Well, you have a good night as well :) Thank you so much for your assistance :)
the main thing is that you get the steps of doing it. There are going to be times when completing the square gets very awkward. I even now flip on some problems. but YW, and have agood one!
(o.o) Um, I haven't finished answering the question lolx @SolomonZelman
I have to go to bad:)
sorry.
Aww, it's okay. I'll see if someone can finish it for me :) Have a good night, sweet dreams!
@dan815 Do you know how to finish this problem? As far as I got is \[(x-4)^{2}+(y+6)^{2}=16\]
@dan815 I need to know the center and the radius
you already know it \[(x-h)^2+(y-k)^2=r^2\]
Compare your equation to this.
(h,k) is the center
Welcome back SolomonZelman! I did and I know my radius is 4, but I don't know the center. According to my packet, the center is not (4,-6)
you have a Russian name.
and yes, the center is (4,-6).
Thank you (^_^) Sadly, I'm not Russian, I'm Puerto Rican :D
Why is that sadly? that's nice.
I have a packet my professor gave me and it says the center is (2,-3) and the radius is 4. I already knew the radius because 4*4 is 16
Being part Russian would be cool :)
No it wouldn't be, trust me. Well, in my case it is knowing 3 languages, including English.
I only know 2 :D I'll ask my professor to see if he had a typo on this problem
why this problem seems good. and you have a radius and a center.
Yeah, but the answer is SUPPOSE to be (2,-3) and r=4
then there must be something wrong. the answer can't be that.
That's what I'm thinking!
Yes:) We didn't make any mistakes:)
I'll make sure to ask my professor tomorrow. Thank you so much :)
Anytime;)
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