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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Need help with inflection points.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Hello!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Okay so my question is asking to find the x-cooridnate of any relative extrema and inflection points for the function f(x)=\[9x^(1/3)+9/2x^(4/3)\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

the (1/3) and (4/3) are powers of the variables.

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

\[f(x) = 9x^{1/3} + \frac{9}{2}x^{4/3}\] like this ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Okay so I've actually done some work so i want to see if so far im right

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I found the first and second derivative for the equation but having trouble somewhere along the process

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Okay great show me what you so far

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[f'(x)=3x ^{-2/3}+6x ^{1/3}\]

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

A necessary condition for relative extrema is the first derivative has to be 0 A necessary condition for inflection points is the second derivative has to be 0 so you're on right track in finding the points at which the derivatives are 0

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[f''(x)=-2divx ^{5/3}+2divx ^{2/3}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

div is divided idk why it does it like that.

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

use ` \frac{}{} `

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

`\frac{2}{3}` gives you \(\frac{2}{3}\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[f′′(x)=−\frac{2}{x ^{5/3}}+\frac{2}{x ^{2/3}}\]

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

copy pasting has some issue

OpenStudy (anonymous):

let me try again.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[f''(x)=-\frac{2}{x^{5/3}}+\frac{2}{x ^{2/3}}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

better?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

looks good! set the first derivative equal to 0 and solve x

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so in all honesty i have trouble with the algebra. do you mind helping me out?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

\[f'(x)=3x ^{-2/3}+6x ^{1/3} = 0\]

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

lets rationalize the numerator

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

\[\frac{3}{x ^{2/3}}+6x ^{1/3} = 0 \]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okay makes sense.

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

\[\frac{3+6x}{x ^{2/3}} = 0 \]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okay lol what happened to the ^1/3

OpenStudy (anonymous):

How'd you get rid of it?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

let me break it for you \[\frac{3}{x ^{2/3}}+6x ^{1/3} \] left side is a fraction, and we know we need common denominator to add fraction. so lets multiply the second term by a special kind of \(\color{red}{1 ~:~\frac{x^{2/3}}{x^{2/3}}}\) \[\frac{3}{x ^{2/3}}+6x ^{1/3}\times \color{red}{ \frac{x^{2/3}}{x^{2/3}} } \]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ofcourse! i understand it now.

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

\[ = \frac{3}{x ^{2/3}}+\frac{6x^{1/3}\cdot \color{red}{x^{2/3}}}{ \color{red}{x^{2/3}}} \]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I understand how now thanks.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so now we have that fraction and we solve for x?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

yes ! it should be easy to solve x now as we can multiply by x^2/3 both sides and get rid off the denominator

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okay so now we have. \[3+6x=x ^{2/3}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

do we square root it?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

careful, right hand side is 0 so anything multiplied by 0 is zero!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh that is true! so rather than the x^2/3 we should have \[x=-\frac{1}{2}\]?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Looks good! x = -1/2 is your critical point

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So now we must find the relative extrema's

OpenStudy (anonymous):

and doing that dont we plot x=-1/2 on a line graph, get a number lower and then higher than it and plug in those numbers into the first derivative to get if the graph increases or decreases.

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

right!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

depending on whether the number is positive or negative

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okay one second i shall let you know.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So we should have a minimum at x=-1/2 correct?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

relative minimum to be exact.

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Perfect !

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

we could also use second derivative to figure out the same

OpenStudy (anonymous):

But isn't that for concavity?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

or in this case inflection point.

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

f''(-1/2) > 0 : relative minimum f''(-1/2) < 0 : relative maximum

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

yes concavity is related to relative extrema

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

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ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

when the graph is concave down, the slopes of tangents around the relative minimum point decrease : |dw:1418873498829:dw|

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