Help with simplifying radical expressions??? fan/medal
\[\sqrt{\frac{ 108x ^{13}y ^{3} }{ 27xy ^{7} }}\]
So far I have: \[\frac{ 6\sqrt{3x ^{13}y ^{3}} }{ ? }\]
Am I not simplifying x and y correctly?
\[\large \dfrac{a^m}{a^n} = a^{m-n} = \dfrac{1}{a^{n-m}}\]
Notice that \(108 = 27\times 4\)
\[\sqrt{\frac{ 108x ^{13}y ^{3} }{ 27xy ^{7} }} = \sqrt{\frac{27\times 4 x^{13}y^3}{27xy^7}}\]
wait now I'm confused
I've never learned it this way
isnt it easy this way ? \[\require{cancel} \sqrt{\frac{ 108x ^{13}y ^{3} }{ 27xy ^{7} }} = \sqrt{\frac{27\times 4 x^{13}y^3}{27xy^7}} = \sqrt{\frac{\cancel{27}\times 4 x^{13}y^3}{\cancel{27}xy^7}} = \sqrt{\frac{4 x^{13}y^3}{xy^7}} \]
Ok thats easy. But what if it the numbers didn't multiply into each other like that?
then simplification is not possible :) lets keep going with the present problem and finish it off
Ok
you have x^13 in numerator and a x in denominator what does that simplify to ?
x^12
Excellent! what about y^3/y^7 ?
y^-4 ?
Right! but we dont want negative exponents so can say it becomes 1/y^4 ?
So do we just move it to the bottom?
\[\begin{align}\require{cancel} &\sqrt{\frac{ 108x ^{13}y ^{3} }{ 27xy ^{7} }} = \sqrt{\frac{27\times 4 x^{13}y^3}{27xy^7}} = \sqrt{\frac{\cancel{27}\times 4 x^{13}y^3}{\cancel{27}xy^7}} = \sqrt{\frac{4 x^{13}y^3}{xy^7}}\\~\\~\\ &= \sqrt{\frac{4 x^{13-1}}{y^{7-3}} }= \sqrt{\frac{4x^{12}}{y^4}} \end{align}\]
wid me so far ?
yep! :)
good write them as powers of 2 and kill the sqrt
would the 4 simplify to 2?
yes! \[\begin{align}\require{cancel} &\sqrt{\frac{ 108x ^{13}y ^{3} }{ 27xy ^{7} }} = \sqrt{\frac{27\times 4 x^{13}y^3}{27xy^7}} = \sqrt{\frac{\cancel{27}\times 4 x^{13}y^3}{\cancel{27}xy^7}} = \sqrt{\frac{4 x^{13}y^3}{xy^7}}\\~\\~\\ &= \sqrt{\frac{4 x^{13-1}}{y^{7-3}} }= \sqrt{\frac{4x^{12}}{y^4}} = \sqrt{\frac{2^2(x^6)^2}{(y^2)^2} } = \sqrt{\frac{(2x^6)^2}{(y^2)^2}} = \frac{2x^6}{y^2} \end{align}\]
Ok thats what i got :)
Could you possibly help me with another one like this?
wil try, ask..
\[\frac{ \sqrt{50x ^{10}}y ^{5} }{ \sqrt{98x ^{2}}y ^{15}}\]
y terms are outside the radical is it ?
?
\(y^5\).. is it really outside the radical ?
no its not
it's inside
\[\large \frac{ \sqrt{50x ^{10}y^5} }{ \sqrt{98x^2y ^{15}}}\] like this ?
Yep sorry
put them in a single radical
you are allowed to do that as everything is real
\[\large \frac{ \sqrt{50x ^{10}y^5} }{ \sqrt{98x^2y ^{15}}} = \sqrt{\frac{50x ^{10}y^5}{98x^2y ^{15}}}\]
looks 2 goes in both 50 and 98 ? cancel it
\[\frac{ 5x ^{8} }{ 7y ^{10}}\]
since 25 and 49 can both be squared
careful, you're right about 5/7 but you need to take sqrt of variables also
do you do that before you subtract them? do you always subtract them?
\[\frac{ \sqrt{50x ^{10}y^5} }{ \sqrt{98x^2y ^{15}}} = \sqrt{\frac{50x ^{10}y^5}{98x^2y ^{15}}} = \sqrt{\frac{25x ^{10}y^5}{49x^2y ^{15}}} = \frac{5}{7}\sqrt{\frac{x^{10}y^5}{x^2y^{15}}}\] fine so far ?
Oh and you divide the variables I forgot for some reason
yes try it again
what do you do with y^5 and y^15 that can't be divided by 2?
simplify first
\[\frac{ 5x ^{4} }{ 7y ^{5} }\]
Yep! \[\begin{align} &\frac{ \sqrt{50x ^{10}y^5} }{ \sqrt{98x^2y ^{15}}} = \sqrt{\frac{50x ^{10}y^5}{98x^2y ^{15}}} = \sqrt{\frac{25x ^{10}y^5}{49x^2y ^{15}}} = \frac{5}{7}\sqrt{\frac{x^{10}y^5}{x^2y^{15}}}\\~\\~\\ &\frac{5}{7}\sqrt{\frac{x^{10-2}}{y^{15-5}}} =\frac{5}{7}\sqrt{\frac{x^{8}}{y^{10}}} = \frac{5x^4}{y^5} \end{align}\]
Thank you so much! I understand it now.
you're welcome !
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