Ask your own question, for FREE!
Mathematics 24 Online
OpenStudy (anonymous):

Help with simplifying radical expressions??? fan/medal

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\sqrt{\frac{ 108x ^{13}y ^{3} }{ 27xy ^{7} }}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So far I have: \[\frac{ 6\sqrt{3x ^{13}y ^{3}} }{ ? }\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Am I not simplifying x and y correctly?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

\[\large \dfrac{a^m}{a^n} = a^{m-n} = \dfrac{1}{a^{n-m}}\]

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Notice that \(108 = 27\times 4\)

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

\[\sqrt{\frac{ 108x ^{13}y ^{3} }{ 27xy ^{7} }} = \sqrt{\frac{27\times 4 x^{13}y^3}{27xy^7}}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

wait now I'm confused

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I've never learned it this way

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

isnt it easy this way ? \[\require{cancel} \sqrt{\frac{ 108x ^{13}y ^{3} }{ 27xy ^{7} }} = \sqrt{\frac{27\times 4 x^{13}y^3}{27xy^7}} = \sqrt{\frac{\cancel{27}\times 4 x^{13}y^3}{\cancel{27}xy^7}} = \sqrt{\frac{4 x^{13}y^3}{xy^7}} \]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Ok thats easy. But what if it the numbers didn't multiply into each other like that?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

then simplification is not possible :) lets keep going with the present problem and finish it off

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Ok

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

you have x^13 in numerator and a x in denominator what does that simplify to ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

x^12

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Excellent! what about y^3/y^7 ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

y^-4 ?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Right! but we dont want negative exponents so can say it becomes 1/y^4 ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So do we just move it to the bottom?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

\[\begin{align}\require{cancel} &\sqrt{\frac{ 108x ^{13}y ^{3} }{ 27xy ^{7} }} = \sqrt{\frac{27\times 4 x^{13}y^3}{27xy^7}} = \sqrt{\frac{\cancel{27}\times 4 x^{13}y^3}{\cancel{27}xy^7}} = \sqrt{\frac{4 x^{13}y^3}{xy^7}}\\~\\~\\ &= \sqrt{\frac{4 x^{13-1}}{y^{7-3}} }= \sqrt{\frac{4x^{12}}{y^4}} \end{align}\]

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

wid me so far ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yep! :)

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

good write them as powers of 2 and kill the sqrt

OpenStudy (anonymous):

would the 4 simplify to 2?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

yes! \[\begin{align}\require{cancel} &\sqrt{\frac{ 108x ^{13}y ^{3} }{ 27xy ^{7} }} = \sqrt{\frac{27\times 4 x^{13}y^3}{27xy^7}} = \sqrt{\frac{\cancel{27}\times 4 x^{13}y^3}{\cancel{27}xy^7}} = \sqrt{\frac{4 x^{13}y^3}{xy^7}}\\~\\~\\ &= \sqrt{\frac{4 x^{13-1}}{y^{7-3}} }= \sqrt{\frac{4x^{12}}{y^4}} = \sqrt{\frac{2^2(x^6)^2}{(y^2)^2} } = \sqrt{\frac{(2x^6)^2}{(y^2)^2}} = \frac{2x^6}{y^2} \end{align}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Ok thats what i got :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Could you possibly help me with another one like this?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

wil try, ask..

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\frac{ \sqrt{50x ^{10}}y ^{5} }{ \sqrt{98x ^{2}}y ^{15}}\]

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

y terms are outside the radical is it ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

\(y^5\).. is it really outside the radical ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

no its not

OpenStudy (anonymous):

it's inside

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

\[\large \frac{ \sqrt{50x ^{10}y^5} }{ \sqrt{98x^2y ^{15}}}\] like this ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yep sorry

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

put them in a single radical

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

you are allowed to do that as everything is real

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

\[\large \frac{ \sqrt{50x ^{10}y^5} }{ \sqrt{98x^2y ^{15}}} = \sqrt{\frac{50x ^{10}y^5}{98x^2y ^{15}}}\]

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

looks 2 goes in both 50 and 98 ? cancel it

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\frac{ 5x ^{8} }{ 7y ^{10}}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

since 25 and 49 can both be squared

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

careful, you're right about 5/7 but you need to take sqrt of variables also

OpenStudy (anonymous):

do you do that before you subtract them? do you always subtract them?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

\[\frac{ \sqrt{50x ^{10}y^5} }{ \sqrt{98x^2y ^{15}}} = \sqrt{\frac{50x ^{10}y^5}{98x^2y ^{15}}} = \sqrt{\frac{25x ^{10}y^5}{49x^2y ^{15}}} = \frac{5}{7}\sqrt{\frac{x^{10}y^5}{x^2y^{15}}}\] fine so far ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Oh and you divide the variables I forgot for some reason

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

yes try it again

OpenStudy (anonymous):

what do you do with y^5 and y^15 that can't be divided by 2?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

simplify first

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\frac{ 5x ^{4} }{ 7y ^{5} }\]

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Yep! \[\begin{align} &\frac{ \sqrt{50x ^{10}y^5} }{ \sqrt{98x^2y ^{15}}} = \sqrt{\frac{50x ^{10}y^5}{98x^2y ^{15}}} = \sqrt{\frac{25x ^{10}y^5}{49x^2y ^{15}}} = \frac{5}{7}\sqrt{\frac{x^{10}y^5}{x^2y^{15}}}\\~\\~\\ &\frac{5}{7}\sqrt{\frac{x^{10-2}}{y^{15-5}}} =\frac{5}{7}\sqrt{\frac{x^{8}}{y^{10}}} = \frac{5x^4}{y^5} \end{align}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Thank you so much! I understand it now.

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

you're welcome !

Can't find your answer? Make a FREE account and ask your own questions, OR help others and earn volunteer hours!

Join our real-time social learning platform and learn together with your friends!
Can't find your answer? Make a FREE account and ask your own questions, OR help others and earn volunteer hours!

Join our real-time social learning platform and learn together with your friends!