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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Series

Nnesha (nnesha):

geometric or arithmetic \(\huge\color{black}{???}\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\sum_{n=1}^{\infty}\ln(2^n+1)-\ln(2^n)\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Find the nature of this Series !

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@perl @Zarkon

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

i remember you posting a similar question few days ago this has to do with telescoping right ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Those are not related

OpenStudy (anonymous):

plus I don't think you can telescope an exp form

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

are you trying to find the value of series or just want to know whether it converges ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

studying the converging

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I'll be back in 15 mins till then you can post your ideas

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

my ideas are to try ratio test / comparison test have you tried them yet ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

An observation:\[\ln(2^n+1)-\ln(2^n)=\ln\frac{2^n+1}{2^n}=\ln\left(1+\frac{1}{2^n}\right)<-n\ln2\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Greater than*, sorry!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Hmm this would suggest that the given series diverges, but it doesn't... interesting

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

siths how about comparing with geometric series 1/2^n ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yup that'll work. Just wondering why what I said doesn't...

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

\[\lim\limits_{n\to \infty} \frac{\ln (1+\frac{1}{2^n})}{\frac{1}{2^n} }= 1\] since the series SUM 1/2^n converges, SUM ln(1+1/2^n) also converges by lmit comparison test

OpenStudy (freckles):

so this question proves wolfram is not reliable?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

lol why wolfram says this series converges right ?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

one sec let me check again..

OpenStudy (freckles):

http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=sum%28log_e%282%5En%2B1%29-log_e%282%5En%29%2Ci%3D1...infinity%29 it says by limit test series diverges

OpenStudy (freckles):

it says it converges when ln(2^n)=ln(1+2^n) I don't know the point in it saying that though

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

interesting here it says it converges http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=%5Csum_%7Bn%3D1%7D%5E%7B%5Cinfty%7D%5Cln%281%2F2%5En%2B1%29

OpenStudy (freckles):

lol i'm an idiot

OpenStudy (freckles):

i put i=1..infinity and used n instead

OpenStudy (freckles):

sorry guys

OpenStudy (freckles):

so yes it converges by the wolfram test :p

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

wolfram test haha! for a moment i doubted the goddess wolfram !!

OpenStudy (kainui):

Lol converges by the wolfram test, I gotta remember that.

OpenStudy (kainui):

The comparison that @SithsAndGiggles was illegitimate, \[\ \ln\left(1+\frac{1}{2^n}\right)>-n\ln2\] This statement is wrong because the left term tends towards 0 while the right term actually tends towards negative infinity. So although he is not wrong in writing this inequality, there is more than one way to diverge ;P

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Oh I see, we have to keep end behavior in mind as \(n\to\infty\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

The series converges to 0.868877 See http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=sum+%28log%28+2%5En%2B1%29+-log%282%5En%29%2C+n%3D1+to+infinity

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