Has anyone here taken "Quantum Field Theory" Class??? I need help [Reward: Medal and Fan]
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btw, i'm confused how to write dho (partial differential sysmbol) using equation here??
rho? \[\partial\]
`\partial`
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Scalar charged particle is described by lagrangian \[L = \frac{ 1 }{ 2 } (\partial_\mu \phi^* \partial^\mu \phi -m^2 \phi^* \phi)\] where m is particle mass and \(\phi(x)\) is complex scalar field which satisfies an equal time commutation relation \[[\phi(x),\pi(y)] = [\phi^*(x),\pi^*(y)] = i\delta^3(\bar{x}-\bar{y})\] where x(y) is canonical momentum field
a) Show that the lagrangian above gives \[\partial_\mu \partial^\mu \phi + m^2 \phi = 0\]
b) Show that \[\phi(x) = \int \frac{ d^3k }{ (2\pi)^3} \frac{ 1}{ 2 \omega_k } (a_ke^{-ik.x}+ b^\dagger_{k} e^{ik.x})\] where k is four-momentum and \(\omega_k\) is particle energy, is solution of \(\partial_\mu \partial^\mu \phi + m^2 \phi = 0\)
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c) Show that both \(a_k\) and \(b^\dagger_k\) operator satisfy commutation relation : \[[a_k,a^\dagger_q] = [b_k,b^{\dagger}_q] = (2\pi)^3 2\omega_k \delta^3 (\bar{k}-\bar{q})\]
d) Calculate the Hamiltonian for the system: \(H = \int\limits d^3x : H : \) with \(H = \sum_i \pi_i \dot{\phi_i} - L\), where L is lagrangian
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Sure, so what have you done?
i have finished part a)
have idea @Pompeii00 ?
I've never learned this stuff, but I've read about it on my own before. Have you tried to approach the first part (a)? I'm thinking it's probably just applying the Euler-Lagrange relation:\[\frac{\partial L}{\partial (\partial_\mu \phi)}=\frac{\partial L}{\partial_\mu \phi}\]
i have finished part a),
\[\frac{ \partial L }{ \partial \phi^*(x) } = \frac{ \partial }{ \partial \phi^*(x) }\left( \frac{ 1 }{ 2 } \partial_\mu \phi^* \partial^\mu \phi - \frac{ m^2 }{ 2 } \phi^* \phi \right)\]
then
\[\frac{ \partial L }{ \partial \phi^* (x) } = -\frac{ m^2 }{ 2 } \phi\]
and \[\frac{ \partial L }{ \partial (\partial_\mu \phi^*(x)) } = \frac{ 1 }{ 2 } \partial^\mu \phi\]
based on euler-lagrange equation \[\frac{ \partial L }{ \partial \phi^*(x) } - \partial_\mu \frac{ \partial L }{ \partial (\partial_\mu \phi^*(x)) } =0\] \[-\frac{ m^2 }{ 2 } \phi - \partial_\mu (\frac{ 1 }{ 2 } \partial^\mu \phi ) = 0\] \[\partial_\mu \partial^\mu \phi + m^2 \phi = 0\]
how about part b, c, and d?? i really need help
I agree. That's a nice derivation. I'm not sure about (b). I notice a complex exponential term, which reminds me of a Fourier Transform.
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for answer b), please you have to substitute the solution \[\phi \] into your equation: \[(\partial ^{\mu} \partial _{\nu} -m ^{2})\phi=0\] so you will get this: \[k ^{\mu}k _{\mu}-m ^{2}=0\] Please note that your solution is in the form of Fourier transform, so it is a tipical practice, substitute it into the equation which we attempt to solve in order to find some constraint
so the length of 4-vector k is equal to m
ok.., i'll try
oops...your equation is: \[(\partial _{\mu} \partial ^{\mu} -m ^{2})=0\]
\[(\partial_\mu \partial^\mu + m^2) \phi(x) \] \[= (\partial_\mu \partial^\mu + m^2) \left( \int\limits \frac{ d^3k }{ (2\pi)^3 } \frac{ 1 }{ 2 \omega_k } \left( a_k e^{-ik.x} + b^\dagger_k e^{ik.x} \right)\right)\] \[=\int\limits \frac{ d^3k }{ (2\pi)^3} (\partial_\mu \partial^\mu + m^2) \frac{ 1 }{ 2 \omega-k } (a_k e^{-ik.x} + b_k^\dagger e^ik.x)\] \[= \int\limits \frac{ d^3k }{ (2\pi)^3 } \frac{ 1 }{ 2 \omega_k } \left( (-k^2 + m^2) a_k e^{-ik.x} + (-k^2+ m^2) b_k^\dagger e^{ik.x} \right)\] \[a_k = a(k)\] \[b^\dagger_k = a^\dagger(k)\] then \[= \int\limits \frac{ d^3k }{ (2\pi)^3 } \frac{ 1 }{ 2 \omega_k } \left( (-k^2 + m^2) a(k) e^{-ik.x} + (-k^2+ m^2) a^\dagger (k) e^{ik.x} \right)\]
I used another method, namely the tensorial calculus, but the answer is the same!
would you mind writing it here ??
or just take a photo
please, wait a moment....
ok thank you ;)
I'm sorry, I tried with my computer cam, but the image is bad quality!
never mind, I put into integral sign the two derivations successively
@gerryliyana sorry, I have a little question: the operators a, namely a_k and a_q do commute?
yes...,
\[[a_k,a_q]=0\]
\[[a_k,a_q] = 0 = [a_k^\dagger, a_q^\dagger]\]
\[[a_k, a_q^\dagger] = \delta^3 (k-q)\]
ok! Now I try to insert two solution, namely: \[\phi (x)=\int\limits \frac{ d ^{3} k}{ (2 \pi)^{3} }\frac{ 1 }{ 2 \omega _{k} }(a _{k}e ^{-ikx}+b _{k}^{*}e ^{ikx})\] and: \[\phi (x)=\int\limits \frac{ d ^{3} k}{ (2 \pi)^{3} }\frac{ 1 }{ 2 \omega _{k} }(a _{k}e ^{-iky}+b _{k}^{*}e ^{iky})\] into your commutation relation
oops... the second solution is \[\pi (x)\]
oops.. in the second solution please read q in place of k
ok.., and then what's the next step??
wait a moment please, I'm trying...
ok ..., ;)
after that substitution, I get, as integrand function, the function below:
\[([a _{k},b _{q}^{*}]e ^{-ikx+iqy}+[b _{k}^{*},a _{q}]e ^{ikx-iqy})\frac{ 1 }{ (2 \pi)^{6} }*\frac{ 1 }{ 4\omega _{k}\omega _{q} }\]
where [,] is the commutator operator
now, we have to perform two integrations, namely \[d ^{3}q,d ^{3}k\]
ok
now, Isince we have: \[b _{k}^{*}=a _{k}^{*}\] I use your above commutation relation between a's and between a's and a*'s
the first term can be rewritten as below: \[(2 \pi)^{3}\delta ^{3}(k-q)e ^{-ikx+iqy}\]
and the second term, can be rwritten as below: \[(2 \pi)^{3}\delta ^{3}(k-q) e ^{ikx-iqy}\]
Sorry, I think to have made an error sign!
I got: \[[\phi (x),\pi(y)]=0\]
great!
I try to evaluate this commutator: \[[\phi (x),\pi ^{*}(y)]\]
ok
I got: \[[\phi (x),\pi ^{*}(y)]=0\]
that's very strange, I think to have made an error, but I don't found it!
in other words, if I apply the commutation relation, namely: \[[a _{k},a _{q}^{*}]=\delta ^{3}(k-q)\] I lways get zero for all commutator between \[\phi (x),\pi(y)\]
and their complex conjugates
@gerryliyana what do you think about that, please?
i absolutely agree with you @Michele_Laino ...,
ok! Now I try to find your commutation relations, starting from your second equation of your problem
i'm ready . . .
I evaluated this commutator: \[[\phi (x),\pi (y)]\] and I got these four terms: \[[a _{k},a _{q}]e ^{-ikx-iqy}\]
\[[a _{k},a _{q}^{*}]e ^{-ikx+iqy}\]
\[[a _{k}^{*},a _{q}]e ^{ikx-iqy}\]
and: \[[a _{k}^{*},a _{q}^{*}]e ^{ikx+iqy}\]
now, we have to find necessary conditions under which that commutator is equal to: \[i \delta ^{3}(x-y)\]
I think that those conditions are: \[[a _{k},a _{q}]=[a _{k}^{*},a _{q}^{*}]=0\] and: \[[a _{k},a _{q}^{*}]=[a _{k}^{*},a _{q}]= constant*i \delta ^{3}(k-q)\] where i is such that: \[i ^{2}=-1\]
i found this
look at page 9., there is the same problem with ours
at that page there are solutions of some exercises, better it is if we know also texts of those exercise, I think!
have you seen equation 3.41 at that page?
btw thank you for helping me @Michele_Laino . I really appreciate it.
Thank you! @gerryliyana
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