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ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Show that the number of coprime positive integers less than \(2^n-1\) is divisible by \(n\) for all \(n\gt 1\)

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

@Marki

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

for example when n = 3 : coprimes less than 2^3 -1 are {1,2,3,4,5,6} and 6 is divisible by 3 as desired

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

when n=4 : coprimes less than 2^4-1 are {1,2,4,7,8,11,13,14} and 8 is divisible by 4

OpenStudy (anonymous):

coprime is the number that have only 2 primes facors right ? why prime is also coprime?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

coprime is same as relatively prime two integers are called coprime if the gcd is 1

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

gcd(15, 32) = 1 so 15 and 32 are coprime

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ohh

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i guess phi function gives the formula right ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i see coprime to 2^n-1 not pairwise coprime i got it

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

yes another way to state the question is prove \(\large n ~|~ \phi(2^n-1)\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

hmm remind me with some group theory

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

still remember the concept of `order` ?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Hint : order of 2 in modulo (2^n-1) is n

OpenStudy (anonymous):

order means number of group , here we have phi(2^n-1)= order hmm

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i can see it clear if we took subgroups from coprime , but how to see it in number theory >.<

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

\[2^n-1 \equiv 0 \pmod{2^n-1}\implies 2^n \equiv 1 \pmod{2^n-1}\] that means the order of \(2\) in modulo \(2^n-1\) is \(n\) because the minimum integer divisible by 2^n-1 is itself.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

aha

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

and the order of any integer in module \(m\) divides \(\phi(m)\) so we're done!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

u directly used some theorem , which i cant remember >.<

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

from euler generalization we have \[\large 2^{\phi(2^n-1)}\equiv 1 \pmod{2^n-1}\] yes ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes !!

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

and order of an \(2\) in module \(2^n-1\) is the smallest positive integer \(k\) that satisfies : \[2^{k}\equiv 1 \pmod{2^n-1}\]

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

we have figured out earlier that the smallest integer satisfying that congruence is \(n\) so k = order = n

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

fine so far ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

** and order of \(2\) in module \(2^n-1\) is the smallest positive integer \(k\) that satisfies : \[2^{k}\equiv 1 \pmod{2^n-1}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

got it !!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

eh i was so far from this >.<

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

we can show that that the order of any integer in modulo \(m\) divides \(\phi(m)\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i was thinking like this {a1,a2,a3,........,a_k} have phi(2^n-1) Order and this is the same as {a1, a_k+1} {a2, a_k-1 } ..... up to subgroups of order 2 that have phi(2^n-1)/2 numbers of subgroups and then got stuck :P

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so u thinking of it like this show that |Z_m| divides phi(m)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

order of modulo m is m itself , right ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

show me ur argument

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Definition of order : order of integer \(a\) in modulo \(m\) is the smallest positive integer that satisfies below \[a^{k} \equiv 1 \pmod m\]

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

from euler, we know that \(\phi(m)\) always satisfies above congruence but \(\phi(m)\) need not be the "smallest" integer that satisfies, yes ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok so 1 as identity ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok im mixing btw two orders :P

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

consider powers of \(2\) in modulo \(7\) : \(2^1\equiv 2 \\ 2^2\equiv 4\\\color{red}{2^3\equiv 1}\\2^4\equiv 2\\2^5\equiv 4\\\color{Red}{2^6\equiv 1}\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

well since its prime order always 7-1 :P

OpenStudy (anonymous):

:O so order 3

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

order of 2 in modulo 7 is not 6 order is 3 here because 3 is the smallest power that yields 1

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i remember that class 2 years ago >.<

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes yes yes yes yaaaaaaaaaaaaaay

OpenStudy (anonymous):

this was something in ring >..<

OpenStudy (anonymous):

and i remember a question in final exam it was find all possible orders of 36 :D

OpenStudy (anonymous):

something like this >.<

OpenStudy (anonymous):

in not off

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

\(\phi(36) = 12\) since we know that the order divides \(\phi(36)\), we only need to check the divisors of \(12\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes yes exactly :P

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

so the possible orders in modulo 36 are {2, 3, 4, 6, 12 }

OpenStudy (anonymous):

include 0

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

definition takes care of that by definition order is the smallest "positive" integer

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes i know what definition is :P 0 is just memeber of ideal we set it when there is no other integer ( just a base )

OpenStudy (anonymous):

and we used to map it like this |dw:1419873804417:dw|

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