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OpenStudy (anonymous):

some amazing questions...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yaaay :3

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\Large \lim_{x \rightarrow 0} x \left[ \frac{ 1 }{ x } \right] \] \[ \Large \lim_{x \rightarrow 0} \frac{ \left[ x \right] }{ x } \] find \(a\) and \(b\) which \( \large \lim_{x \rightarrow 0} \frac{ \sqrt{ax +b}-2 }{ x } = 1 \) i've already solved all of them,i'm sure i have solved the third one correctly but i'm not sure of the first and second one.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

let me write the solution of the third one...

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

Do the [square brackets] mean something special?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

[] = \(\lfloor \rfloor \) floor function

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes means least integer

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

[x] gives the greatest integer less than or equal to x

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes

OpenStudy (anonymous):

guys can i post the solution for the third one?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

post im waiting :O

OpenStudy (anonymous):

if we suppose \(\large \sqrt{ax + b} = t\) so if \(x \rightarrow 0 \) then \(t \rightarrow \sqrt{b} \) and \(\large x = \frac{ t^2 - b }{ a }\) so, \[\large\lim_{x \rightarrow 0} \frac{ \sqrt{ax + b}-2 }{ x } = \lim_{t \rightarrow \sqrt{b}} \frac{ (t-2)a }{ (t -\sqrt{b})(t+\sqrt{b}) }\] if we suppose \( ~ t-\sqrt{b} = t-2 ~ \color{red}{(1)}\) then \(\lim_{t \rightarrow \sqrt{b}} \frac{ (t-2)a }{ (t -\sqrt{b})(t+\sqrt{b}) } = \lim_{t \rightarrow \sqrt{b}} \frac{ a }{ t+\sqrt{b} } = 1\) so,\(\large \frac{ a }{ 2\sqrt{b} } = 1\) and from the equation \(\large \color{red}{(1)} \) we know \(b=4\) so \(\Large a=4 \) and \(\Large b=4 \).

OpenStudy (anonymous):

and for first one i supposed that when \(x \rightarrow 0\) then \(\left[ \frac{ 1 }{ x } \right] \rightarrow 0\) so \( \large \lim_{x \rightarrow 0} ~ x \left[ \frac{ 1 }{ x } \right] = 0 \)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

but i'm not sure whether i've used properties correctly

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

\[\lim \limits_{x\to 0} x\left[ \frac{1}{x}\right] = \lim \limits_{y\to \infty } \frac{\left[y\right]}{y} = \lim \limits_{y\to \infty } \frac{y - \left\{ y\right\}}{y} = \lim \limits_{y\to \infty } 1-\frac{\left\{ y\right\}}{y} = 1-0 = 1\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

when [x] =x (means x is integer ) then limit is 1 at x tends to zero otherwise [x] <x means x have radical part then limit >1 so as x tend to [x] we would have a limit of 1

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

\(\{y\}\) is the fractional part of real number \(y\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i got that

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

second limit looks very tricky

OpenStudy (anonymous):

part b is different i guess pick x<0 [x] <x any where thus<1 if u picked small values u would got (|x0|) 0 each time i would say limit tend to 0

OpenStudy (anonymous):

well @ganeshie8 , would you explain ut solution? u supposed \[\frac{ 1 }{ x } = y\] ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@ganeshie8

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

yes let \(\large y = \frac{1}{x}\) as \(x\) tends to \(0\), the value of \(y\) tends to \(\infty \), yes ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes

OpenStudy (anonymous):

wait,i got it

OpenStudy (anonymous):

why my explanation was incorrect ?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

as \(\large x \to 0\) we have \(\left[\dfrac{1}{x}\right] \to \infty\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

wait a moment! \(y \rightarrow \infty\) then \(\frac{ \left\{ y \right\} }{ y } \rightarrow ?\)

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Notice that the fractional part is always a number between 0 and 1

OpenStudy (anonymous):

correct , so \(\left\{ y \right\}\) would be smaller and smaller and \(y\) would be bigger so the whole fraction would be 0

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

\[\large 0 \le \{y\} \lt 1\] \[\large \frac{0}{y} \le \frac{\{y\}}{y} \lt \frac{1}{y}\] \[\large 0 \le \frac{\{y\}}{y} \lt \frac{1}{y}\] now take limit through out \[\large \lim \limits_{y\to \infty}0 \le \lim \limits_{y\to \infty} \frac{\{y\}}{y} \lt \lim \limits_{y\to \infty}\frac{1}{y}\] \[\large 0 \le \lim \limits_{y\to \infty} \frac{\{y\}}{y} \lt 0\]

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

so that value of that limit is between 0 and 0 that means the value is exactly 0

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@ganeshie8 can i use squeeze theorem for the last line u wrote?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

yes we are using squeeze thm above ^

OpenStudy (anonymous):

got it ;) and why my explanation was incorrect?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

why is it the case that as \(\large x\to 0\), the value of \(\large \left[\dfrac{1}{x}\right]\to 0\) ?? doesn't that look wrong at its face value ?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

I am refering to this http://gyazo.com/03ca984e638b6eafd5975a773199b404

OpenStudy (anonymous):

that page doesn't load for me. yes... and ur idea about the third one ?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

im still going through it one sec

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Wow! it took me a while to see why it works xD it looks brilliant!! it works

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

im talking about limit #3

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok lets note something \(\left[ 1/x\right]\neq1/ \left[ x\right]\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

thus i guess explanation was true !

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

yes your solution for limit #3

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

no mistakes i have alternative method using definition of derivative which il post in the end maybe.. but ur method looks perfect !

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

so looks like we are done with first and third limits ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh thank you;) but i would like to now how u used derivative definition for it

OpenStudy (anonymous):

post it later

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes only the second one is left...i think @Marki has some ideas for it

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ur idea's were so cool xD such that i cant think of anything

OpenStudy (anonymous):

|dw:1420196255725:dw| im making piecewise function :3

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so around zero |dw:1420196395453:dw|

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