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OpenStudy (anonymous):

integral

OpenStudy (anonymous):

no actually got lost on it

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\int\limits \sin(x^2) dx\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

can you give me a hint?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Fresnel integral: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fresnel_integral I'm afraid there's no closed form :/

OpenStudy (anonymous):

sure, but that form that includes the sum notation, how would I come to it? by doing integration by parts, many times?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

"No closed form" generally means you won't be able to find an antiderivative, at least not in terms of elementary functions (i.e. polynomials, trig functions, exponentials, logarithms etc)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes, I see... like for example e^x/x would be something like sigma, infinity terms, i=0 for (n! e^x / x(x)^n)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I mean n=0, not i=0

OpenStudy (anonymous):

and I want to know how to come to this not-closed form

OpenStudy (anonymous):

and that e^x/x I would get the sigma, but integrating by parts many times, differentiating the bottom x each time

OpenStudy (anonymous):

But in this case, (I mean,) how would I get the sigma notation answer?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I can elaborate if you want, I sound pretty confusing....

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

use power series of sin(x) to express sin(x^2) as an infinite sum

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

http://i.stack.imgur.com/oiv7g.png

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I see the power series for sin(x), so sin(x^2) would be x^3/ 3 - x^7 /3!7 + x^11/5!11 + x^15/7!..... right?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

maybe use the sum notation.. \[\begin{align}\sin (\color{Red}{x}) &=\sum\limits_{n=0}^{\infty}\frac{(-1)^n}{(2n+1)!}\color{Red}{x}^{2n+1} \\~\\ \sin (\color{Red}{x^2}) &=\cdots \end{align}\]

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

just replace x by x^2

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[=\sum_{n=0}^{\infty} \frac{(-1)^n}{(2n+1)!}x^{4x+2}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I was never good at those, but this should fine, after you chewed it for me:D

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

:) these are fun Careful.. x is your function variable and "n" is the temporary index variable in sum

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I am aware, tnx

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

maybe use the sum notation.. \[\begin{align}\sin (\color{Red}{x}) &=\sum\limits_{\color{blue}{n}=0}^{\infty}\frac{(-1)^n}{(2n+1)!}\color{Red}{x}^{2\color{blue}{n}+1} \\~\\ \sin (\color{Red}{x^2}) &=\sum\limits_{\color{blue}{n}=0}^{\infty}\frac{(-1)^n}{(2n+1)!}\color{Red}{x}^{4\color{blue}{n}+2} \end{align}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I will try to get a tutor, to go over this entire power series thing. I haven't spent time studying it in school.... nice colors, btw. are you able to put this inline?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

or it's impossible?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yeah, the integration part, as much as I could get, I got.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Nice integral for the day !

OpenStudy (anonymous):

pain in my a... jK

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

right click on the reply and click "Show Math As" ---> "Tex commands" it shows you the latex code..

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I thought that integration by parts would remove any questions..

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Angle -Angle -Side

OpenStudy (anonymous):

tnx.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

If I see anyone put an inline sigma, then I would make sure to copy the command and put in in my latex

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Btw, do you know anyone who knows how to do it, so that I can msg?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I mean to put inline sigmas, and integrals but so that they look nice, not messed up.

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Power series are powerful because the integral of infinite sum equals the sum of integral of each term with the same radius of convergence

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

All that means is that you can switch \(\large \int\) and \(\large \sum\) signs when you're dealing with power series (conditions apply)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

not this way, \(\ \sum_{n=c_1}^{c_2}f(n) \)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

but a normal, nice looking on?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

copy paste below exact code ``` \[\begin{align} \sin (\color{Red}{x}) &=\sum\limits_{\color{blue}{n}=0}^{\infty} \frac{(-1)^n}{(2n+1)!}\color{Red}{x}^{2\color{blue}{n}+1} \\~\\ \sin (\color{Red}{x^2}) &=\sum\limits_{\color{blue}{n}=0}^{\infty} \frac{(-1)^n}{(2n+1)!}\color{Red}{x}^{4\color{blue}{n}+2} \\~\\ \end{align}\] ```

OpenStudy (anonymous):

`\(\sum_{n=1}^\infty\)` gives \(\sum_{n=1}^\infty\), whereas `\(\displaystyle\sum_{n=1}^\infty\)` gives \(\displaystyle\sum_{n=1}^\infty\).

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh cool, tnx!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

for an integral you would also add \displaystyle?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

and for a limit too?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yes, though you also have the option of the `\limits` command if you want to keep the small size. Example: `\(\sum\limits_{n=1}^\infty\)` yields \(\sum\limits_{n=1}^\infty\).

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\(\large \displaystyle \lim_{x \rightarrow a} f(x) \)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\(\large \displaystyle \lim_{x \rightarrow a} f(x) \) works!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh, it's not hard...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

How did you know to do this, this is a very nice trick, (the displaystyle) !

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

you wont be needing them if you use `\[ \]` instead of the inline code `\( \)` only the inline latex doesn't know where to put the limits

OpenStudy (anonymous):

limits work with inline latex as well

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

`\[ \sum_a^b \]` produces below \[ \sum_a^b \]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\(\large \displaystyle \lim_{x \rightarrow a} f(x) \) oh \(\large \displaystyle \int\limits_{a}^{b} f(x)~dx \) snap

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

yes you mayh use `\limits` explicitly in inline code..

OpenStudy (anonymous):

The limits `\limits` stuff also works with other commands, like `\bigcup`, `\bigcap`, `\sup`, etc: \(\bigcup_{x\in X}\iff\bigcup\limits_{x\in X}\) \(\bigcap_{x\in X}\iff\bigcap\limits_{x\in X}\) \(\sup_{x\in X}f(x)\iff\sup\limits_{x\in X}f(x)\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

sup? don't even want to learn that... omg...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

hey, sup?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

jk

OpenStudy (anonymous):

alright, I guess I am done with math for now

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\(\huge \color{blue }{ت}\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

tnx @ganeshie8 @SithsAndGiggles my patience (:D) marki, :PPPP

OpenStudy (anonymous):

:P :P

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\(\large T~~H~~A~~N~~K \small\displaystyle \int_{}^{} x~dx \)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

got to go. excuse me discúlpeme jk

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ganeshie8... I am leaving... don't get too excited:P jk

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I just got to go, but not for ever though, so sure.. go ahead...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\(\boxed{:O} \)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

bye

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ur funny :P bbye

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

\(\huge \color{red}{\ddot \smile} \)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

huh my T in cuter :P

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